Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Valefor4life]

Here's what I understand so far from the "change the min level" people.
People who leech to 90 hurt pick up parties, the auction house and low level gear, partying in old areas, Vanilla parties, and empty low level areas. And most of all...

They make it so someone can be equal or better than them over the course of 2 weeks starting at level 1.

They hurt 90 pick up parties because you let them join. If you make a lvl 90 pick up party and you let someone not 90 join who's fault is that? If you want to lvl in the old areas there is no one stopping you from doing so, you just better hope you got enough friends to believe in the same thing you believe. And if someone leeches to 90 and after a course of 2 weeks gets as good or better than the OP. Well that's even better because that's a new job to join shout groups and gets stuff done. What I recommend for the OP is to make a LS and recruit people who wanna join exp parties like in the old days. Nothing wrong with that. Not everyone in an abyssea party can be a leech or shit would never get done.

[Alhanelem]

for the 4000th time, everyone is in control of their own play experience. If you don't want to play with leechers/keyboxers, then don't play with them. Make your own party. Kick the undesirable people out. This isn't a problem that needs to be solved with artificial limits. It's something the players can handle on their own.

[Khiinroye]

I "leech" XP in Abyssea off my LS mates, because my static and I were only level 61 when we returned to the game. Abyssea drew us back in because when we quit, the whole LS were High Levels constantly doing Dynamis or other random High Level junk that left us behind; there was never anything to do except hang out with my static getting crap XP and watching the whole LS pass us by. We quit out of boredom and frustration. Along came Abyssea which lets us chat with our freinds, and laugh while we open chests or get one-shotted for doing something dumb; socially Abyssea is allowing us to accomplish something in-game while having a good time AND learning from our peers the perks and responsibilities of being High Level. That said, I've never joined an XP party where we chatted outside of Abyssea; they were all essentially soulless grind-fests where everyone ignored each other except for chaining, constantly pulling, or popping abilities--there was no dialogue and I've never made a friendship through an XP party, though I've blacklisted an amazing quantity of "people". Raising the cap in Abyssea would once again seperate my static and I from our LS, leaving us to stand in low-level squalor while they have fun getting R/Ex weapons and cool gear. The player-base is shrinking, and Abyssea at least lets me hang out with my friends, seeing what they do, and learning from them how my own job(s) would/should be played. Put simply, raising the cap would drive us away once again.

This was the other thread. I thought it was a good read and appropriate to quote in this one.

[blowfin]

This isn't a problem that needs to be solved with artificial limits. It's something the players can handle on their own.

Whoah, slow down there man, next thing you'll be saying that people can influence their own future through hard work and perseverance.

[rog]

Other way around. They could release significantly larger textures (taking up much more hard drive space for PC users), but they cannot perform a complete overhaul of the graphics without reprogramming the entire game engine. Even if they dropped PS2, they could not make FFXI look like FFXIV. Ever.

They could just use a better engine. Only thing stopping them from doing that is $$$.

[Mirage]

The only thing ever stopping anyone from doing anything is $$$.

[Greatguardian]

They could just use a better engine. Only thing stopping them from doing that is $$$.

No argument here. Engines are costly, and FFXI is old. I'm not sure they'd be able to borrow/buy one suited for FFXI from someone else either, so they'll probably have to develop it in-house. I don't think FFXI has that much staff allocated to it.

[Mirage]

Just slap all the textures and models into UE2 and make a new UI. How hard can it be?!

well probably a bit hard, but SE is pro at PC programming, right?

[erevan]

Why are you guys saying a year to get to 75? It was faster in 2003. That is not even close to reasonable in 2011, not even for a brand new player.

A year to 75? I took 9 months and 8 days to beating Maat and Abyssea wasn't around yet. I'm not sure if that time span is considered unusual or not tho.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Whm 1-75 back in '03 took less then a month. lol