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    It is more than 50 assaults though. You need captain rank which means doing enough assaults or nyzul to rank up which is 25points then do each rank up quest. Some involving finding everyone's favourite mysterious hoof prints that could be anywhere. All three beast men leaders. Then the quest asks you to do all fifty assaults you can only four a day if you remember to pick up your tags. You have to beat each section of salvage get through einherjar and beat Odin. Get 30k alexandrite, 150k tokens, and 100k ichor. Read many runs of the events that drop/reward these until you have enough or bought enough. Again can only do nyzul or assaults as many times that you have tags for. Can only do salvage once a day and that takes up assault points to do so. Einherjar takes 60k gil just to go inside and can only do this every 20 minutes after leaving the chamber they were in.
    Might have to take a break here and there to farm. After you finish that step you get to go take pictures of mobs so you can get enough to do ZNMs yay!!! Which has it's own tiers and can't do the nms you need until you have done nine other nms for each of the three nms you need an item off from. So 30 nms total followed by a fight and you get a nude mythic yay! Then trade your weapon to a tombstone get your full mythic and wait a JP midnight to complete the quest.

    The only thing I can think of pre abyssea part of an empyrean weapon that might take a few days depending on the nm you get sent after are the ones that have whacky respawn timers. The vnms are pretty quick to get done in a short amount of time.
    Once inside abyssea the only weapons that might take a bit to get past the first of the three are the three weapons that need fistule as he is a 30min respawn. Though hey after the 2nd aby nm you actually get a weapon that does the ws thus a functioning weapon. It also starts ten leves higher than their mythic and relic counterparts. At this point you probably have spent less time and money than someone going for either of the other two. Now if you are soloing this and not trying to get the procs to increase the chance of the KIs to pop your nms then that is on you and not the game.
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    Player Kimjongil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    It is more than 50 assaults though. You need captain rank which means doing enough assaults or nyzul to rank up which is 25points then do each rank up quest. Some involving finding everyone's favourite mysterious hoof prints that could be anywhere. All three beast men leaders. Then the quest asks you to do all fifty assaults you can only four a day if you remember to pick up your tags. You have to beat each section of salvage get through einherjar and beat Odin. Get 30k alexandrite, 150k tokens, and 100k ichor. Read many runs of the events that drop/reward these until you have enough or bought enough. Again can only do nyzul or assaults as many times that you have tags for. Can only do salvage once a day and that takes up assault points to do so. Einherjar takes 60k gil just to go inside and can only do this every 20 minutes after leaving the chamber they were in.
    Might have to take a break here and there to farm. After you finish that step you get to go take pictures of mobs so you can get enough to do ZNMs yay!!! Which has it's own tiers and can't do the nms you need until you have done nine other nms for each of the three nms you need an item off from. So 30 nms total followed by a fight and you get a nude mythic yay! Then trade your weapon to a tombstone get your full mythic and wait a JP midnight to complete the quest.

    The only thing I can think of pre abyssea part of an empyrean weapon that might take a few days depending on the nm you get sent after are the ones that have whacky respawn timers. The vnms are pretty quick to get done in a short amount of time.
    Once inside abyssea the only weapons that might take a bit to get past the first of the three are the three weapons that need fistule as he is a 30min respawn. Though hey after the 2nd aby nm you actually get a weapon that does the ws thus a functioning weapon. It also starts ten leves higher than their mythic and relic counterparts. At this point you probably have spent less time and money than someone going for either of the other two. Now if you are soloing this and not trying to get the procs to increase the chance of the KIs to pop your nms then that is on you and not the game.
    To be fair mythic is stupid easy from 75 to 99. Relic has marrows. And empy hmp and rifts or dross. Most empys wont go past 90.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimjongil View Post
    To be fair mythic is stupid easy from 75 to 99. Relic has marrows. And empy hmp and rifts or dross. Most empys wont go past 90.
    ^ this is true
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimjongil View Post
    To be fair mythic is stupid easy from 75 to 99. Relic has marrows. And empy hmp and rifts or dross. Most empys wont go past 90.
    True most wont but to me the argument is which one takes longer to obtain. You can stop an empy at 85 since you have the weapon skill and aftermath. You can't have a mythic with stats until you have done the full quest. Vs being able once inside aby to beat your nm(s) multiple times in a day. Heck a working relic outside if dynamis happens before you complete the quest. Now if we are saying they are not complete till they are "done" thus both quests are done for relic and mythic and empy just got to 99 I still think myth is still longer.
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    I pretty much agree with Afania on everything. Anybody who wants to make a Mythic can make one. Or don't, you'll never be booted out of a group for not having one. The effort is significant, but the reward is also significant and it's one of the last truly significant accomplishments in the game.

    Aside from that, the effort/reward is much better than Empyrean weapons and comparable to Relics. In many cases, these are the best weapons in the game.

    Put a gun to my head and I'll say fix ToAU spawn conditions and give us more Assault tags. Other than that, don't change a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    True most wont but to me the argument is which one takes longer to obtain. You can stop an empy at 85 since you have the weapon skill and aftermath. You can't have a mythic with stats until you have done the full quest. Vs being able once inside aby to beat your nm(s) multiple times in a day. Heck a working relic outside if dynamis happens before you complete the quest. Now if we are saying they are not complete till they are "done" thus both quests are done for relic and mythic and empy just got to 99 I still think myth is still longer.
    Might be longer, but the reward is much better too. Also, if you only care about the WS, you will not 90 your Empyrean. You'll 99 a WoE weapon instead. I don't think you can compare anything but the ilvl 119 versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crevox View Post
    All I can say is... lol

    These statements alone show me you are in no position to make any sort of informed or intellectual decision on this matter. I was going to read your post(s) and respond appropriately (I skimmed and saw these lines), but it would be a waste of time. I'm not interested in your flawed misinterpretation of a game, or any opinions related to it.
    It's not "my opinion is flawed", it's YOUR opinion toward RPG is differnt from mine. Fine, don't hear it, but I'm still not going to agree with your opinion lol. IMO, your opinion is just as flawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonjustin View Post
    , I see this as selfish because it's basically saying that the primary reason to have it is so you can make yourself feel good knowing you are 1 of 100 people out of 10,000 people to have something, you're part of the 1% of players, yay. The other thing I said was selfish or greedy was asking for changes to be made, or not be made, only based on your own ideas and how you feel about something.
    I don't agree with everything else you said, but I don't think I can change your mind. So I'm only going to address the above 2 point.

    1. I never consider myself to be 1% and never really feel good about my life in FFXI. I often feel I'm behind everyone else lol. But even then, you have a very negative POV toward "Wanting to be 1% and feel good."

    It is not a crime to want to be better than others at something and feel good, it's only a crime if I'm better than others AND act cocky about it. It's part human nature to more or less want to do something better than others, and feel accomplished after the goal is accomplished. There may be some ppl never want to do stuff better than others, but there are also ppl that's not like that, I'd say majority.

    You mentioned "wanting to do something better than others and feel good" in such a negative way. But it's not always THAT negative. I may want to do something better than others and feel good about what I accomplished, but I may go out and help others to improve and do it as good as myself. And also feel accomplished when I see others to do something as good. I see nothing negative about it.

    On the other hand, if I do something better than others, and go out and laugh at everyone else that's worse than me, and refuse to help others to improve, THAT's selfish.

    If I own a Mythic, and go "mwhahaha I'm better than everyone else cuz I have mythic, NOOOO I'm not helping everyone else to obtain a mythic so only I have mythic". THAT is selfish. If I go out and help others to finish a Mythic so they can feel as accomplished, then it's NOT selfish.

    However, if I pop on a forum and ask dev to cut the requirement so I can have a mythic without spending time, THAT is selfish. Because I just devalued the mythic of OTHER people to suit my need so I can have one. Item value=based on rarity. There are ppl who spent years to do mythic just because it's Mythic. By asking the requirement to cut in half so I can have one, I just trashed other mythic owner's work.

    If you still don't accept the above opinion toward being selfish, then idk what to say.


    2. Everyone have their own idea of what makes better game and what does not. I asked for the changes about what not to be make, is as legit/selfish as ppl wanting mythic requirement to cut in half to suit their needs. I can argue that whoever wants mythic requirement to cut in half is also selfish too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renaissance2K View Post
    Every discussion of Mythics is basically dozens of players looking for the most polite way to say, "Obtaining a Mythic should be easy for me but impossible for everyone else."
    How would mythic requirement easy for 1 person but impossible for everyone else lol. Mythic requirement is the same for everyone. If I'm doing one I need 100 assualts, 30k alexandrite and so on. Same requirement as every other hardcore and casual.

    If it's getting tojil clear or AA VD clear maybe I CAN argue the difficulty is different for everyone, because everyone play different jobs. Mythic doesn't even have job/race requirement....
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    I pretty much agree with Afania on everything. Anybody who wants to make a Mythic can make one. Or don't, you'll never be booted out of a group for not having one. The effort is significant, but the reward is also significant and it's one of the last truly significant accomplishments in the game.

    Aside from that, the effort/reward is much better than Empyrean weapons and comparable to Relics. In many cases, these are the best weapons in the game.

    Put a gun to my head and I'll say fix ToAU spawn conditions and give us more Assault tags. Other than that, don't change a thing.
    All I see on the forum is "Cut Mythic requirement by half so I can own a mythic, wait you already wasted years of your life doing the longer requirement? Too bad for you, idc as long as I can have mythic too, oh and you're selfish/foolish/dumb/w/e if you want me to go through the work of Mythic."

    How about just don't do mythic if you don't feel like it?
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