Producer Matsui, you have significantly improved the new player experience.

[OKOA]

The game is incredibly huge, a few other smart things that have even done recently (whether intentional or not):

Placement of AA, RoE, monstrosity, and trust npcs I the starting cities increases the random chances of seeing a new player with a ? Over their head, which I seem to be seeing more of lately.

It would be really nice if they could find more ways to retain the new players they are hauling in lately.

One thing I did not realize when I first posted this thread is that a temporary bonus was in place to EXP among other things.

Having since gone back to bring my support job up to the same level as my main job, I can't say that I found the rate of leveling that much slower due to the fact that GoV and RoE are my two main sources of exp. It sort of begs the question though why they would even be apprehensive about making those numbers a permanent change and continuing to run 50% weekend campaigns or something like that.

Either way, the new Trust system and the RoE combined with repeating GoV pages and the ability to get exp multiple times each game day are all pretty groundbreaking in terms of making the leveling experience more palatable.

The eminence weapons and armor sets are also a good guarantee that I will be able to cheaply gear up to tackle most of the storyline solo.

I see plenty of cracks in the foundation already, but I have to say that progress is being made.

I guess I will report in once I beat Maat.

[Karah]

It sort of begs the question though why they would even be apprehensive about making those numbers a permanent change and continuing to run 50% weekend campaigns or something like that.

You've got to realize that exp is literally about 30x (not 30%, 30 TIMES) faster to get now.

Way back when, you would get 5, not 50, not 500, FIVE exp for killing something that took more than a minute to kill, because "easy prey" WAS NOT EASY.

Depending on your job, an EP mob could destroy your face, FoV GoV RoE trust none of this existed. The only thing we had was an exp ring...

So while they make it easier, and easier and eeaassiieerr and eeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeerrrrrr at what point do they stop giving the "free" exp.

[Anjou]

You've got to realize that exp is literally about 30x (not 30%, 30 TIMES) faster to get now.

Way back when, you would get 5, not 50, not 500, FIVE exp for killing something that took more than a minute to kill, because "easy prey" WAS NOT EASY.

Depending on your job, an EP mob could destroy your face, FoV GoV RoE trust none of this existed. The only thing we had was an exp ring...

So while they make it easier, and easier and eeaassiieerr and eeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeerrrrrr at what point do they stop giving the "free" exp.

I see Karah is on the warpath today. One moment let me just sift through your comment.

Back then, it was roughly 40-50 EXP per mob, not 5 which is a huge overstatement.

Depending on the job yes, but most people stuck to parties to fight larger mobs, solo'ing was a stupid idea bar BST.

They don't give out free exp Karah, otherwise we'd be seeing way more complaints on this forum about it. Yes it's easier to lvl up, but this is rate now isn't too low, isn't too high, in fact when we try the baby bear route, we find out this EXP soup is "Just right"

[Karah]

No, clearly you haven't been around that long, you could obtain single digit exp.

50 was basically the MAX you could get soloing (unless bst or smn).

They dont give out free exp eh, what do you call Records of Eminence objective; "heal without magic". You can accidentally obtain exp by resting.... come on now.

[Anjou]

No, clearly you haven't been around that long, you could obtain single digit exp.

50 was basically the MAX you could get soloing (unless bst or smn).

They dont give out free exp eh, what do you call Records of Eminence objective; "heal without magic". You can accidentally obtain exp by resting.... come on now.

That's for a new player Karah, something that you apparently associate everybody with nowadays by calling them gimps and noobs.

Since you obviously can't talk to anyone positively, I'll be the one to say it: No one likes you, you need to shut up and just leave, because you do not help ANYONE by acting the way you do.

Now if you want to keep talking, I can pretty much counter w/e the hell you're gonna throw at me, because I got about 5 and a half hours to sit around and do nothing.

[Karah]

I mean that's cool for you, I already made all the points, everything you say is completely irrelevant, just like justin.

There isn't anyone in all of ffxi that doesn't know Karah is a prick, it's common knowledge, repeating it ad-nausium is just redundant.

[Spiderturk]

Fantastic post really sums up the current state of ffxi and he it's growing, but no matter what people will stick with playing through the thick and thin with it all. Trust and RoE have been the best thing since adoulin started gives a lift to those who like leveling as exp party have taken a large decline due to the numbers.
But to say again great post
(Good job!)

[OKOA]

You've got to realize that exp is literally about 30x (not 30%, 30 TIMES) faster to get now.

Way back when, you would get 5, not 50, not 500, FIVE exp for killing something that took more than a minute to kill, because "easy prey" WAS NOT EASY.

Depending on your job, an EP mob could destroy your face, FoV GoV RoE trust none of this existed. The only thing we had was an exp ring...

So while they make it easier, and easier and eeaassiieerr and eeeeeeaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeerrrrrr at what point do they stop giving the "free" exp.

I appreciate your comments and enthusiasm, but I'd like to make one thing clear.

The first time I bought this game (the day it came out) I leveled MNK to level 18 with no subjob solo. Now I realize that back then not any job could do that, and monk was probably one of the best jobs to do it with, but I just want to be clear that it is a dubious claim at best by veteran players that you couldn't solo.

You certainly couldn't solo to level 50 without a subjob--which you can now--but there were solo opportunities for the motivated player.

I am really looking at things from a post-abyssea perspective however, and that is to say a world that exists many years after the fact you could just pay some random person a few thousand chocobo blinkers worth of gil, go afk, and come back 16 or so hours later to a brand new level 99.

That is the new exp reward paradigm the game is in and has been in for years. So it is pretty ludicrous to think that offering 120 exp versus 60 would somehow be game-breaking.

It is however hilarious to see that people would actually argue that it is defensible for them to do it, but would be criminal for a new player. The "us versus them" mentality has always been the worst "feature" of this MMO.

[OKOA]

Fantastic post really sums up the current state of ffxi and he it's growing, but no matter what people will stick with playing through the thick and thin with it all. Trust and RoE have been the best thing since adoulin started gives a lift to those who like leveling as exp party have taken a large decline due to the numbers.
But to say again great post
(Good job!)

Thank you for the words of encouragement. Much appreciated.

[Karah]

There's just so many advantages people have now to gain exp, yes you can solo and do it the hard way. That's always been an option. And I also realize that exp parties are all but literally completely gone.

I would totally go for something conditional; IE "while soloing" or "does not apply to limit points" or "if your account is new" etc, but just a broad stroke of EVERYTHING NEEDS TO GIVE 2x EXP THIS IS TOO SLOW WHINEWHINE is ludicrous.

You shouldn't be able to just log in, play blindfolded and hit level 99, that's exactly what breeds situations like we have now, where players can't even grasp simple concepts. And skipping game content that should've been required to be beaten, as with this CoP whining about reforging gear.