Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Arconis]

I fully Support raising Cap to 70+ all leeching has done for the game is make old areas obsolete and baron of people no one party's anymore. What is point of MMO if your not out partying and meeting new people and friends. As Abyssea stands right now game has gotten stagnant no one does anything but goto Abyssea and leech as many jobs as they can to 90, whats the point so you can get Maat's Cap oh wow now that was challenging wasn't it not. Let bring the fun back to all areas (The World) in game not just Abyssea.

[Valaris]

O.O calm down zeitzone. getting mad and going off like that is just what the people your debating with want. dont give into your frustrations with them

[Zeitzone]

I simply do not appreciate the way you and others talk down to everyone here, as if leeching makes people unworthy of playing FFXI.

But thats the point, becouse leeching is not okey, it makes ppl unworthy to play this game, it makes them unworthy to play any RPG.
Leeching is not RPG way. RPG players do not leech.
I dont dislike the persons who are leeching, i dislike that they chose the way of leeching.
Becouse it isnt the way a RPG is meant to be played.

And i wish i had a program to overcheck my english writing, but i got noone.

[Gunit]

I fully Support raising Cap to 70+ all leeching has done for the game is make old areas obsolete and baron of people no one party's anymore. What is point of MMO if your not out partying and meeting new people and friends. As Abyssea stands right now game has gotten stagnant no one does anything but goto Abyssea and leech as many jobs as they can to 90, whats the point so you can get Maat's Cap oh wow now that was challenging wasn't it not. Let bring the fun back to all areas (The World) in game not just Abyssea.

Wouldn't that mean that they like leeching jobs and getting to 90? So lowering the cap would keep people happy?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

70+ would mean that I could start making money on silk thread again. lol
Either way, up, down or no change, it's all the same to me.

[Zeitzone]

So you never took a high level character in an rpg into a battle with a low level character to level them? When you play other Final Fantasy games, all your characters are -always- similar levels? When playing pokemon, you always carried around pokemon of the same level and never used a high level one to level up the lower ones?

Don't spread filthy lies about leeching having no place in RPGs

I never did, becouse thats cheating.

[Gunit]

But thats the point, becouse leeching is not okey, it makes ppl unworthy to play this game, it makes them unworthy to play any RPG.
Leeching is not RPG way. RPG players do not leech.
I dont dislike the persons who are leeching, i dislike that they chose the way of leeching.
Becouse it isnt the way a RPG is meant to be played.

And i wish i had a program to overcheck my english writing, but i got noone.

I think leeching is very big part of the game, has been around long before abyssea came out.

[jeffanddane]

I still stand with partying through the old way, you gain skill and knowledge on an ever changing platform of challenges and solutions to tons of problems . . . . What do you get from abyssea . . . . (I learned to key a chest 89243798527349 times. . . . . ) Please lvl entry to 70 XDDDDDD. Even if you say you learn nothing from normal partying because you do the same thing over and over and over again the fact is you don't do the same thing over an over again, not every party is the same not every party is perfect. It's the same way in RL practice means perfect my friend. Alot of people who do things outside abyssea usually go with the job they lvled from 1-75 normally because they got a full understanding of skills they had to repeatably use over and over and over again along with timing and precision. Being well seasoned on job shows quality in work which not saying that people who leech have no understanding of there job, they are just few and far between. Even back in the day there were people that didn't know what they were doing but they are not as common as they are now. Abyssea also caters to the lazy players the new comers also need to learn the way of FFXI and I am sorry there not going to learn leeching from 30-90 doing keys.

[Zeitzone]

Sorry just the way this guy writes has been bugging the living hell out of me for the past day or so after reading his posts.
I mean hell I don't type that well most of the time but not as bad as him.

And it seems like you're making it seem like having a Lv90 character is good or something like a Trophy or some such idea, which is silly in itself.

Well on some way its the reward of a long and hard RPG time, yes.
Same as when you play Pokemon you are proud to have reach the maximum level of your pokemon over a long time of battles. What meaning whould it have to get your Pokemon from level 1 to 100 in 1day. No fun, no Proud.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I think leeching is very big part of the game, has been around long before abyssea came out.

I have personal PL'd them on many occasions long before TAU even existed.(No, the leecher wasn't the one fighting.) We've just found a new and exciting way to do it.