Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Zeitzone]

I have 7 90's, 6 of which I've had since WotG came out, and 2 of which I've had since ToAU came out. If I wanted to leech and get a Maat's Cap, I could and would have done so ages ago. I am garnering no personal benefit from leeching.

That said, you're ridiculous. Your arguments consist of nothing more than "This is right. This is moral. We need to do it this way or we'll be lost to the heathens." It's nothing but ironic coming from you. You're in no position to tell other people what is "right" for FFXI.

But you too are not the one to tell them! How can you dare to say leeching is right?

But i know this game has been a antileech game for several years and all FF games are build on the old fashion RPG way.
So thats the standart of this serie.
So we do not let leeching destroy our game fun by make grinding look redicioleus.
Becouse leeching is redicioleus, leeching isnt RPG style!
Its for ppl with no stamina, ppl who cant do anything alone. Deffending themselves by senseless arguments why leeching is allright. If leeching is possible in such high amount as it is now, then leveling becomes absolutly wortless, we dont need 90 levels if we can leech those up in 2 weeks, then we just play an action adventure without any leveling.
What are 90 levels good for if you dont even recognize them becouse 10 of them get up in a row.

[Gunit]

^This.

Both abyssea minimum level threads are more or less the same discussion anyway.

No its this lol

Here's what I understand so far from the "change the min level" people.
People who leech to 90 hurt pick up parties, the auction house and low level gear, partying in old areas, Vanilla parties, and empty low level areas. And most of all...

They make it so someone can be equal or better than them over the course of 2 weeks starting at level 1.

or you know the whole thread was started as a joke? lol
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103...t=#post4483708

but yeah both are the same discussion

[Tsukino_Kaji]

^This.

Both abyssea minimum level threads are more or less the same discussion anyway.

Which shall now be merged into one super thread entitled "Go into abyssea at the level in which you feel most comfortable."

[Gunit]

Which shall now be merged into one super thread entitled "Go into abyssea at the level in which you feel most comfortable."

lol. why does my post need to be longer?

[Greatguardian]

But you too are not the one to tell them! How can you dare to say leeching is right?

But i know this game has been a antileech game for several years and all FF games are build on the old fashion RPG way.
So thats the standart of this serie.
So we do not let leeching destory our game fun by make grinding look redicioleus.
Becouse leeching is redicioleus, leeching isnt RPG style!
Its for ppl with no stamina, ppl who cant do anything alone. Deffending themselves by senseless arguments why leeching is allright. If leeching is possible in such high amount as it is now, then leveling becomes absolutly wortless, we dont need 90 levels if we can leech those up in 2 weeks, then we just play an action adventure without any leveling.
What are 90 levels good for if you dont even recognize them becouse 10 of them get up in a row.

Okay, seriously, I'm not trying to be ethnically insensitive but you need to slow down with your typing. I know English is not your first language, but it is extremely difficult to read your posts when you do not stop and proofread them.

Also, no, I'm not making any sort of judgment. SE has left leeching in the game. I am fine with it. If I was not fine with it, I would get over it. What I do not appreciate are people coming in demanding that SE change their game to suit their wants. If they raised the entry requirement? I'd get over it. You're the one threatening to quit, not me. I simply do not appreciate the way you and others talk down to everyone here, as if leeching makes people unworthy of playing FFXI.

If all the players with that attitude quit, I doubt anyone would miss them.

Edit: Protip, even the best players in the game don't have that sort of crap attitude.

[Valaris]

I think Gunit just mixed up the threads. The "Lower the cap" thread is the one he was referencing, and yes it was made as a joke response to this utterly worthless thread.

yeah but that thread also has you in it saying your going to come in here and troll lol

[Zeitzone]

The other thread is about BS to reduce access to level 1.
So that other thread is totaly senseless and noone takes it seriously, i wrote 1 coment there that im against it, and thats all. Even comming on a dumb idea like making a opossite meening wortless crap thread is BS for itself.
Sure there whould be any kind of responses to that bullshit, noone wants a level 1 entrance to Abyssea, wtf, why not a level 0 entrance. Hey why not starting the game directly in Abyssea beside of 10 Exp treasures.

[Nacht]

So we do not let leeching destory our game fun by make grinding look redicioleus.
Becouse leeching is redicioleus, leeching isnt RPG style!

So you never took a high level character in an rpg into a battle with a low level character to level them? When you play other Final Fantasy games, all your characters are -always- similar levels? When playing pokemon, you always carried around pokemon of the same level and never used a high level one to level up the lower ones?

Don't spread filthy lies about leeching having no place in RPGs

[Sanjurio]

But you too are not the one to tell them! How can you dare to say leeching is right?

But i know this game has been a anti-leech game for several years and all FF games are build on the old fashion RPG way.
So thats the standard of this series.
So we do not let leeching destroy our game fun by make grinding look ridiculous.
Because leeching is ridiculous, leeching isn't RPG style!
Its for ppl with no stamina, ppl who cant do anything alone. Defending themselves by senseless arguments why leeching is alright. If leeching is possible in such high amount as it is now, then leveling becomes absolutely worthless, we don't need 90 levels if we can leech those up in 2 weeks, then we just play an action adventure without any leveling.
What are 90 levels good for if you don't even recognize them because 10 of them get up in a row.

Sorry just the way this guy writes has been bugging the living hell out of me for the past day or so after reading his posts.
I mean hell I don't type that well most of the time but not as bad as him.

And it seems like you're making it seem like having a Lv90 character is good or something like a Trophy or some such idea, which is silly in itself.

[Gunit]

The other thread is about BS to reduce access to level 1.
So that other thread is totaly senseless and noone takes it seriously, i wrote 1 coment there that im against it, and thats all. Even comming on a dumb idea like making a opossite meening wortless crap thread is BS for itself.
Sure there whould be any kind of responses to that bullshit, noone wants a level 1 entrance to Abyssea, wtf, why not a level 0 entrance. Hey why not starting the game directly in Abyssea beside of 10 Exp treasures.

how is this thread any less of bullshit?