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    Player Papesse's Avatar
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    SMN Lv 99
    I don't know how well geared is your Smn or if you play it at all now but asking for longer buffs duration is absurd. My Hastega alone lasts for 5:30 min (the duration can exceed 5 min, wiki is wrong on this).
    It's also absurd saying Smn brewing is weak when we have Cataclysm...

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffanddane View Post
    Sorry SMN is not a heavy DD we may do 3-4k+ but this is not heavy DD my friend this is called spike damage. A SAM could easily conqure this,same for WAR,BLM,DRK,MNK. Where a huge number I see a small. For example my lvl 90 MNK. I hit for about 100/200 a hit 300+ on crits (in abyssea) outside 100/200 crits. Now in abyssea i hit for those about every 30-45 second and depending on my double attack + triple attack mods from atmas and sub job I lay waste to my SMN and thats just on punching I am not even factoring in my 2k+ ws's. I am sorry a well geared melee job or blm or sch can totally out DD a SMN in a heart beat. And if anything this idea would make a great way for SMN to nuke harder faster or be a great support.
    Sorry but my Smn has never been the weak/useless DD you are describing while running a Parser. Does that's means my Kannagi Nin, Sam (who sadly can't spam Gekkos for 9k), War and Blm friends sucks even if they have the best gear available? I don't think so. IMO the main default of the job is it need much work and investissements than others to shine but it doesn't mean that it is an impossible task. Exemple : Ifrit's Favor can be potentially stronger than Fighter's Roll but it need a high amount of Smn skill and the AF3+2 Head...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papesse View Post
    Ifrit's Favor can be potentially stronger than Fighter's Roll but it need a high amount of Smn skill and the AF3+2 Head...
    This number is blank on wiki:

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ifrit%27s_Favor

    How high does it go now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papesse View Post
    I don't know how well geared is your Smn or if you play it at all now but asking for longer buffs duration is absurd. My Hastega alone lasts for 5:30 min (the duration can exceed 5 min, wiki is wrong on this).
    It's also absurd saying Smn brewing is weak when we have Cataclysm...

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    Sorry but my Smn has never been the weak/useless DD you are describing while running a Parser. Does that's means my Kannagi Nin, Sam (who sadly can't spam Gekkos for 9k), War and Blm friends sucks even if they have the best gear available? I don't think so. IMO the main default of the job is it need much work and investissements than others to shine but it doesn't mean that it is an impossible task. Exemple : Ifrit's Favor can be potentially stronger than Fighter's Roll but it need a high amount of Smn skill and the AF3+2 Head...
    Im sorry but I am a very well geared summoner with full AFV3 +1 and pieces of +2. We are out DDed are we worthless no . . . .With favor on our pets are even worse and they don't even get there own favor. I am sorry my friend. . . . and even meleeing as smn/sam i cant keep up and my dmg is pretty good /sam for just the smn part of it not my pet. SMN is the most mediocre DD job in FFXI. Its unstable and it is all over the place. . . We are not good buffers. . . we are beaten by most other DD's when thorugh out the FF series SMN are AOE godsends. . . . . I am not sure about the durations but I know our effects need to be enhanced. And like mentioned before SMN is an illusionist DD you see that huge DMG and its like wow. . . . but melees and mage jobs can do that + the melee in between/next spell on the list. And with enimity minus equips/ spells like pax . . . . yeah they can definitely out DD us.
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