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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    You two are just butting in with your own little pet project even if you mean well by doing so. It's great that you're an awesome front-line DD SMN, but your post was more about promoting your niche play style than it was about this rather glaring oversight (or horrible decision) by the devs. Whether you meant it that way or not, you essentially told the guy that he's doin' it wrong when in actuality his style is perfectly valid. Elphy took the opportunity to kick the guy in his teeth and other sensitive bits after you knocked him down. I'm used to such behavior from the FFXI community, but it still gets on my nerves.

    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    I think part of is there needs to be someway to balance it since smn is great at the relatively safe AoE dmg. I mean you can hit over 500 AoE from thunderspark. Similarly to how there healing hits everything in WKRs which would be rather unfair if they make a repeatible healing
    I disagree. It'd actually be perfectly fair for SMN to have a huge advantage in this content since other jobs have huge advantages over SMN in other content. That's the way SE tends to "balance" things.
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    Last edited by Camiie; 12-22-2013 at 11:12 PM.

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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    You two are just butting in with your own little pet project even if you mean well by doing so. It's great that you're an awesome front-line DD SMN, but your post was more about promoting your niche play style than it was about this rather glaring oversight (or horrible decision) by the devs. Whether you meant it that way or not, you essentially told the guy that he's doin' it wrong when in actuality his style is perfectly valid. Elphy took the opportunity to kick the guy in his teeth and other sensitive bits after you knocked him down. I'm used to such behavior from the FFXI community, but it still gets on my nerves.
    I have to disagree. I said in almost all of my posts on this topic, that not only did I recommend the OP play his own style and that my responses were only suggestions and should be taken as such, but i also said I unequivocally agree that Summons should be counted and that the meleeing aspect should only be considered a temporary fix until SE comes around to addressing the issue or oversight since it will probably take some time.

    Just because this aspect of RoE is clearly broken does not mean one should feel helpless to complete the RoE trial until its fixed, by offering a temporary solution to the problem, we're giving the OP, and any out-of-the-loop Summoners, a real chance to collect the Sparks from these trials, which is far better than posting absolutely nothing or any importance outside of "I agree" and fanning the flames of rage on the subject rather than looking for any logical short term solution to the issue.

    So I hope this post has alleviated that miscommunication, also if we really want it to be fixed soon, I would like to also suggest posting it in the bug report section if its not already been made there.

    Edit: In regards to AoE damage, BLUs have been using the Whiskers AoE move in Abyssea to easily finish their 500/1k Damage trials, so it shouldn't be an issue with summoner either when they address it.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 12-23-2013 at 09:15 AM.