SKC BCNMs: Very Hard = Impossible?

[FaeQueenCory]

nobody will do those battles after the login point campaign lol. At least I wont. Farming seals is the most boring thing to do.

Rejoice. You're gonna see a BUNCH of people doing them on the 11th and even more on the 12th and onward:
The trade table is being implemented.

[saevel]

Stompa,

You only need that insane gear / buffs on VH mode. On the lower difficulty you can beat it with significantly less gear, which is what SE was aiming for. Someone without access to the best can still acquire their gear if they put in the work. Someone who's already at the top can access the more "challenging" modes to get theirs slightly faster.

Note:
Challenge in FFXI is just using numerically larger states which must be combated with equally larger stats player side, the fight mechanics are the exact same which is kinda sad.

[Camate]

Greetings,

As others have already mentioned in this thread, the necessity for proper gear increases as you go towards the harder difficulty levels. Especially for Very Hard, having the right gear is very important, so if you are having problems challenging this content, try to procure higher level equipment and we think you’ll see a difference.

[Draylo]

The original blurb on this forum was that "you can solo your AF in the very easy battles" I'm sure if you hunt around you will find the quotes of people saying that.
As for the "lazy / you want to be carried" that is just nonsense. I was farming coffer keys for people's AF in 2004~, on my BST. Back when those mobs were not especially easy to solo on most jobs, especially at 1/50~ drop sometimes, I was spending whole days farming the items/NMs for people's AF. I have no problem with effort going into AF. I'm certainly not lazy, with a full-time successful job and two bright kids I'm raising solo.
If you can't see the correlation between some bright spark saying "you fail because you don't have THE best gear" and gear snobbery, then that is your problem. It seems pretty clear cut to me. Also the very notion that ;
YOU NEED LEVEL 119 GEAR TO FARM ARTIFACT UPGRADE ITEMS FOR ARMOR THAT IS MUCH LOWER LVL THAN LVL 119. IS BLOODY STUPID.
I didn't want to solo it either. I asked on three LS, of my peers and long time friends ; "we don't need anything from those bcnms" "we don't have enough SKC's" etc.etc. Plus zero /shouts and most people with SKC are not going to gamble those SKC on a /shout run anyway - which I DO NOT blame them for at all. So having tried to organise a party for weeks, I went and solo'd. And as I was told here "you fail because you don't have THE best gear" ; gear of a mere level 115 on three slots and 113 on the others. Obviously not enough for a "very easy" mode fight, that drops items for gear which is lower level than the gear I was using in the bcnm, lol......
Like I say though, I win on this issue because I tried ; I farmed the SKC, tried to get a party together (on a server with like 300-400 actual players & 200 mules) and failed, tried to solo it with perfectly decent gear, and failed. I win because I gave up on it after trying my best, its a failed system so I walked away, after posting my feedback here.

I honestly do not believe that you shouted for "weeks" and couldn't find two others to help you do Normal or lower difficulty SKCNM. Just stop and think about how people seem to so easily complete this content... Do you ever think about that? Stop being so blinded by jealousy and do a little research. It isn't hard AT ALL to do these, I promise you. Heck, you are even on my server. I can help you do some and show you how easy it is and give you some pointers. If you want send me a tell and we can work something out.

[Sasaraixx]

The original blurb on this forum was that "you can solo your AF in the very easy battles" I'm sure if you hunt around you will find the quotes of people saying that.
As for the "lazy / you want to be carried" that is just nonsense. I was farming coffer keys for people's AF in 2004~, on my BST. Back when those mobs were not especially easy to solo on most jobs, especially at 1/50~ drop sometimes, I was spending whole days farming the items/NMs for people's AF. I have no problem with effort going into AF. I'm certainly not lazy, with a full-time successful job and two bright kids I'm raising solo.
If you can't see the correlation between some bright spark saying "you fail because you don't have THE best gear" and gear snobbery, then that is your problem. It seems pretty clear cut to me. Also the very notion that ;
YOU NEED LEVEL 119 GEAR TO FARM ARTIFACT UPGRADE ITEMS FOR ARMOR THAT IS MUCH LOWER LVL THAN LVL 119. IS BLOODY STUPID.
I didn't want to solo it either. I asked on three LS, of my peers and long time friends ; "we don't need anything from those bcnms" "we don't have enough SKC's" etc.etc. Plus zero /shouts and most people with SKC are not going to gamble those SKC on a /shout run anyway - which I DO NOT blame them for at all. So having tried to organise a party for weeks, I went and solo'd. And as I was told here "you fail because you don't have THE best gear" ; gear of a mere level 115 on three slots and 113 on the others. Obviously not enough for a "very easy" mode fight, that drops items for gear which is lower level than the gear I was using in the bcnm, lol......
Like I say though, I win on this issue because I tried ; I farmed the SKC, tried to get a party together (on a server with like 300-400 actual players & 200 mules) and failed, tried to solo it with perfectly decent gear, and failed. I win because I gave up on it after trying my best, its a failed system so I walked away, after posting my feedback here.

I will not agree with the poster who called you lazy. Babekeke was correct though in that you cannot declare something impossible simply because *you* cannot do it, especially when you do not have the best gear.

And you don't win on the issue . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayA_RAyo6Uo

And that was on normal difficulty. I see shouts for these fights every day. It is absolutely not a failed system. I find it hard to believe that you are unable to find 2-3 people to do the easier fights. They don't also have to have the orb to do the fights btw. That could have been confusion on their part and part of the reason your friends did not want to do them.

[Alhanelem]

Also as I said originally, I have abandoned this af upgrade path. It is badly implemented. I can play other content which I enjoy. I was just posting my feedback here.

Calling it "badly implemented" just because you can't solo it is pretty silly. While getting large groups in the game is pretty hard right now, it is not that hard to gather up 1 or 2 people.

[Camiie]

Greetings,

As others have already mentioned in this thread, the necessity for proper gear increases as you go towards the harder difficulty levels. Especially for Very Hard, having the right gear is very important, so if you are having problems challenging this content, try to procure higher level equipment and we think you’ll see a difference.

I think what SE is failing to mention here is that the proper gear for the content may not yet be implemented.

[Byrth]

All of the VD modes have been duoed by triboxers now. I have personally never lost one, though I enter with 6 players always. Please tell me again that they are impossible.

Also, do you guys know what the benefit of VD mode is? A chance of RME item case and one more seal, as far as I can see. Even if people are capable of doing VD, it is probably better for them to do Difficult. Just do VD once for the title and then spamm D.

[Camiie]

All of the VD modes have been duoed by triboxers now. I have personally never lost one, though I enter with 6 players always. Please tell me again that they are impossible.

Also, do you guys know what the benefit of VD mode is? A chance of RME item case and one more seal, as far as I can see. Even if people are capable of doing VD, it is probably better for them to do Difficult. Just do VD once for the title and then spamm D.

I'm not ace enough to do very difficult, but I have done difficult. The evasion of the mobs in the fight I did was insane. One bad thing about the higher ilevel gear is that much of it has less accuracy than the previous ilevels. I actually had to "downgrade" most pieces to have enough. I don't mind having to be versatile and make adjustments, but it kinda flies in the face of what Camate suggested unless I'm missing something.

[Babekeke]

5/5 highest level gear is generally only the best for tanking and soloing. For DD you are still required to think, I'm afraid. If you aren't going to take much damage, or have very good healing, then the likes of thaumas are still top contenders, if you would call that a 'downgrade'. Not to mention the best use of your brds/cors/geos/food.