SKC BCNMs: Very Hard = Impossible?

[Byrth]

I'm not ace enough to do very difficult, but I have done difficult. The evasion of the mobs in the fight I did was insane. One bad thing about the higher ilevel gear is that much of it has less accuracy than the previous ilevels. I actually had to "downgrade" most pieces to have enough. I don't mind having to be versatile and make adjustments, but it kinda flies in the face of what Camate suggested unless I'm missing something.

If you have Oatixurs and can eat Sushi, you should have no Acc issues in Difficult fights even without buffers (except when fighting the THF type monsters). Go /WAR and stagger Focus and Aggressor.

[Zarchery]

I don't need pointers, in June 2014 I will be ten years in the game, continuously. This SKC battle needs #of people, simple as that. And the problem is that most small LS are empty now. Sorry that is hard for you to grasp.

Also as I said originally, I have abandoned this af upgrade path. It is badly implemented. I can play other content which I enjoy. I was just posting my feedback here.


Also I wouldn't party with you even if you were dipped in chocolate. All you ever do is call people you've never even met "lazy", "gimp" and "jealous", you're a total @$$. Just look at the hate you spewed on me in this thread and others. Leave me alone.

I've done a couple of these on Hard, and many more on Normal. The Normal ones aren't that terrible if you have a good sleeper or a PLD with a lot of defense and physical damage taken reduction. Hell, even on Easy mode you're guaranteed 1 Rem's Tale per run. Only need 5 to upgrade a piece of you do some Limbus and +1 it first. You could probably scrape together a shout group with a little persistence. It'll be easier now that the crests are available for 30 logon points each and you can supposedly trade other seals for sacred crests. Should be more takers.

Though I agree with your point about Draylo.

[Camiie]

5/5 highest level gear is generally only the best for tanking and soloing. For DD you are still required to think, I'm afraid.

You missed the part where I mentioned not minding being versatile and making adjustments.

If you aren't going to take much damage, or have very good healing, then the likes of thaumas are still top contenders, if you would call that a 'downgrade'. Not to mention the best use of your brds/cors/geos/food.

Last I checked thaumas coat doesn't have as much accuracy as other options and in SE's eyes it probably is a downgrade compared to ilevel gear. See, what Camate said was that we need to get better gear to do well in the very difficult fights. My point was that what SE bills as better gear actually tends to have less accuracy than gear that precedes it in the hierarchy. Yayotl helm and whirlpool mask are exceptions. My point? The gear he's talking about doesn't appear to exist as of yet.

If you have Oatixurs and can eat Sushi, you should have no Acc issues in Difficult fights even without buffers (except when fighting the THF type monsters). Go /WAR and stagger Focus and Aggressor.

I do have oats, I did eat sushi, and I still had acc issues. My H2H is capped and fully merited. I was /WAR and did stagger focus and aggressor. After the first fight I slapped on all the acc gear I had with me. We only started hitting decently once our BRD gave us full madrigals. This was in the Dismemberment Brigade fight. We won them all, but that first fight was a real whiff fest for all of us. I'm not jumping on your case, but your experience is much different than mine.

[Nidhogg]

I think what SE is failing to mention here is that the proper gear for the content may not yet be implemented.

The gear is in the game, you are just being closed minded if you think your Yorica Skirmish gear is enough to carry you through the content, need to stack high accuracy in equipment, food, and buffs (Madrigal, Auspice, Boost-DEX, Hunter's Roll) and utilize debuffs to enhance your ability to kill the mobs in the BC my Corsair usually subs Dancer and puts up steps on the mobs we are fighting to lower evasion and defense, also using Dia 2 enhanced with light shot and any circle effects we can to gain an edge.

[Draylo]

I don't need pointers, in June 2014 I will be ten years in the game, continuously. This SKC battle needs #of people, simple as that. And the problem is that most small LS are empty now. Sorry that is hard for you to grasp.

Also as I said originally, I have abandoned this af upgrade path. It is badly implemented. I can play other content which I enjoy. I was just posting my feedback here.


Also I wouldn't party with you even if you were dipped in chocolate. All you ever do is call people you've never even met "lazy", "gimp" and "jealous", you're a total @$$. Just look at the hate you spewed on me in this thread and others. Leave me alone.

Hm that isn't all I ever do, but okay. Like I said, you can contact me if you need help.

[Camiie]

The gear is in the game, you are just being closed minded if you think your Yorica Skirmish gear is enough to carry you through the content, need to stack high accuracy in equipment, food, and buffs (Madrigal, Auspice, Boost-DEX, Hunter's Roll) and utilize debuffs to enhance your ability to kill the mobs in the BC my Corsair usually subs Dancer and puts up steps on the mobs we are fighting to lower evasion and defense, also using Dia 2 enhanced with light shot and any circle effects we can to gain an edge.

No, I'm just saying SE's official answer is wrong. If anyone is being closed minded it's them. The "better" gear that's in the game right now has less accuracy than what precedes it on the ilevel scale. That tells me that for Camate's answer to be correct they need to put more accuracy on higher ilevel armor.

[Byrth]

I do have oats, I did eat sushi, and I still had acc issues. My H2H is capped and fully merited. I was /WAR and did stagger focus and aggressor. After the first fight I slapped on all the acc gear I had with me. We only started hitting decently once our BRD gave us full madrigals. This was in the Dismemberment Brigade fight. We won them all, but that first fight was a real whiff fest for all of us. I'm not jumping on your case, but your experience is much different than mine.

Well, my monk wears essentially only gear that auto-falls to it or comes from DNC and still had no accuracy issues. My TP set is:
Oatixurs/__/__/Potestas
Uk' Cap/Asperity/Bladeborn/Steelflash
Thaumas/Otornif/Rajas/Epona's
Atheling/Windbuffet/Quahuiz/AF+3

That with Sole Sushi +1 and two marches (and Focus/Aggressor staggered) was enough to cap my hit rate against everything except the THF Fomor in Brothers d'Aurphe. Perhaps we have a dagger user along doing evasion down debuffs, but if we did then I don't remember it. I do have a weak Acc TP set that I didn't need to use:
Oatixurs/__/__/Honed Tathlum
Whirlpool/Ziel/Bladeborn/Steelflash
Thaumas/Otornif/Rajas/Epona's
Atheling/Windbuffet/Quahuiz/AF+3

I guess the quality of your support matters too. The Blind from Hecatomb Wave is very potent.