Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Zagen]

slow leveling is a part of RPGs.

To be accurate slow leveling while progressing through the game's storyline is how it works in RPGs, the only thing that remotely applies to that anymore is the limit break quests for new players. In FFXI there is EXP grinding and there is storyline they both function for the most part independent of each other more so now that people who help aren't going to be capped at a given level for a lot of mission fights.

[Ceinwyn]

I really hope SE will save the game. It's a shame.
Abyssea will destroy all what the game stands for over time if they do nothing.
Classic areas will slowly die out, more and more, Ah's will be emptier than they're allready.
It'll be all about quick exp and rushing to Lv100.
They should not ever have implented Abysea on this way, made the game just worse.
If you can lv 30-100 that fast like you can in abysea right now, that's just wrong and game breaking.
Future will be peps, who dont know the simplest areas and have never heard of stuff like ZM or CoP.
What SE is doing right now is like crippling your own baby, just to earn some extra cash of the insurance /:
However, you will have more cash, but your baby won't be the same ever again and most likely
it wont have much happy time left on this planet, just sad!
I dont have anything against more sucribers, if this is what the players want.
However, strange interpretation of fun, my opinion. FFXI is not like WOW, totally opposite of WoW and that is fine.
It just hasnt the aspects, which make WoW fun with its fast lv progress, ffxi is based on his atmosphere and story, the friendships, the moments which stay in your mind forever...
But could we go slowly on it pls? Higher Lv Cap for Abys would help the game alot, more peps for low-mid lv partys,
still stuff to buy on the ah for this lv range and you could still enjoy the regular game.
The problem is, if people can hit lv 100 within a few weeks, they will do so, oh i forgot, they dont have a chioce either,
because theres no one left to party with but i guess you all expect of them to solo to 100 if they dont like to speedhack.
And Level-Sync is a lot better than abys, true, you have main camps too but its not as game breaking, good usual exp and you can exp somewhere else too, exp wont be much worse. Stays in no comparison to abys.
To say it simple. The whole Low-Lv-Mid-Lv Content will die, if nothing changes... what an end for such a great game, makes me cry )':

[magnius]

slow leveling is a part of RPGs.

No, it isn't. Just because you say doesn't make it true. Come on now. This might work with your LS, but when you deal with people outside of your LS you need to back it with some kind of truth.

[Greatguardian]

Zeitzone needs to stop bringing people over from the German forums to back them up in this thread. He/she threw away all of their credibility pages ago. Those arguments have all been smashed to pieces. If people are too lazy to go back and read even 5-10 pages back, I will not expend any effort refuting the same arguments for the 20th time.

[magnius]

your baby won't be the same ever again

Have you considered that had been SE's plans?

The whole Low-Lv-Mid-Lv Content will die

To make room for new content.

[Emitremmus]

It's the gap from 30-70 that bothers me most. Those are important levels to earn and find your playstyle for a given job in my opinion. By the time you are level 70 I think you have a good feel of how things work and grinding to 90 in 3 days is no big deal. You then have to learn how to pace yourself in an alliance, which is never a bad thing.

[RaenRyong]

Zeitzone, your quote earlier about Haste destroys any credibility you may have had.

[Ceinwyn]

Zeitzone needs to stop bringing people over from the German forums to back them up in this thread.If people are too lazy to go back and read even 5-10 pages back, I will not expend any effort refuting the same arguments for the 20th time.

Nobody brought me over and i back nobody up, i can speak for myself.
I'm sry, if i haven't read your post but i dont have the time to scroll through
1k pages, however if you want to quote it, i will read it for sure (:

Have you considered that had been SE's plans?

Not at all, but i hope they will do something for vana'diels health in the near future
to reduce the dmg which they have dealt.
The planet is dying... :x(couldn't resist)

[Zeitzone]

Zeitzone needs to stop bringing people over from the German forums to back them up in this thread. He/she threw away all of their credibility pages ago. Those arguments have all been smashed to pieces. If people are too lazy to go back and read even 5-10 pages back, I will not expend any effort refuting the same arguments for the 20th time.

I didnt bring a single person here, its just the ppl who come for themselves and agree, at last in some points to the thread opener. So stop spreading lies or trying to flame ppl. You see that there are more ppl same as me who like the from you so called "Grind".
Germans are still in german forum. I dont think that anyone beside me showed up here, maybe that alexanderrr girl. But as i remeber she was pro-leeching too. In Anti leeching and pro-grinding.
I like thick storylines with ingame scenes and slow level up as it is supposed to be in RPGs. As it has been for ages in FFXI, and as every RPG FF part has always been, a grinders game!
Thats why all this leeching destroys an Era, a very long grinding saga!
Mostly we grinders bought all the old parts of FF, becouse leechers whouldnt have the stamina to play such games. They whould give up after first 10hrs leveling and whould press away any text of the story SE had put much effort in.

[magnius]

I'm sry, if i haven't read your post but i dont have the time to scroll through
1k pages

Really though, if you haven't bothered to read up on a single concept, in this case, either the first FIVE TO TEN PAGES or the last 5-10 pages, means you really haven't put any thought in your assumptions...as seen when I asked if you have ever considered anything else other than your first reactive thought:

Not at all

It only makes your argument weak.