Whatever happened to Cait Sith and Atomos?

[Edyth]

Some very substantial new content has been developed since Cait Sith and Atomos were announced (Adoulin's areas, missions, quests, lore, characters, monsters, skirmishes, delves, items, music, and more; Monstrosity; two entirely new jobs), so the team has been very busy. It would be really nice to see this promised content delivered. Personally, I've lost some of my interest after all these years because I don't think they will have been worth the wait. Also, playing as Cerberus, a summon from FFVIII, in Monstrosity has helped my wounds heal.

[Tohihroyu]

[Daydreamer]

I am not someone that logs onto the forums and comments on every single topic. I do however read these forums all the time and I have been looking forward for years now on some sort of resolution with Cait sith and Atomos. Because I rarely comment on things but once in a pink mage moon I want to give some of my input.

(Don't need every forum troll alive to explain how we got this, got that, had this adjusted, had this added, and are capable of this, and capable of that, I know all that has happened don't require your pointless explanations of the job and its history.)

First: THANK YOU!! for everything you have worked on and made come true in vanadiel and all realms of Final fantasy from the time that hironobu sakaguchi was involved with everything final fantasy until even now, I have truly enjoyed playing these games and I love the World's that are final fantasy. Arigato /bow.

Second: I have played 14 and don't care for it much summoner in that game is horrid if I have to cast ruin 1 more friggen time id likely sooner cast /shutdown. 14 is beautiful and even more boring than before the fixes. You got the AH right good job.
If we have lost all dev staff to 14 im sry to say im canceling my 3 month self renewing sub with 14 it just hasn't lived up to my hopes again.

Third: AH hasn't had a new Summoner scroll in how many years? Maybe some new spirits once you finally have time and resources to give summoner pets again?
If it has taken 2+ years to get these avatars out to us Can I just ask right now in advance along with some new spirits and the final implementation of cait sith and atomos, while that team is putting some efforts towards this game and its can we also get phoenix ? and maybe a few other future avatars figured out and created with back storys yada already in place so that such extended wait times are avoided.

Fourth: I realize this game is older and has its limitations but we are still paying full price for something that no longer has dev team resources ? Maybe we cant ever really expect it to last forever but we sure as hell can have fun hoping for it too. I have never had a problem with buying any expansions released and im sure most would agree we would pay full new game price for something that gives us the things we want. you want money ? we want avatars make some mini expansions and charge us for it. If the question is will we pay ? yes we will. will everyone cry about it ? yes they will lol. but if it gains us resources just be honest with us about it and I think you can limit the cry cry at least a little bit.

Remember all the voices on the forums are FAR!!!! from all the people that are actually playing and care about this game. Talk to you again on another pink mage moon.

[Multiabuse]

Some very substantial new content has been developed since Cait Sith and Atomos were announced (Adoulin's areas, missions, quests, lore, characters, monsters, skirmishes, delves, items, music, and more; Monstrosity; two entirely new jobs), so the team has been very busy. It would be really nice to see this promised content delivered. Personally, I've lost some of my interest after all these years because I don't think they will have been worth the wait. Also, playing as Cerberus, a summon from FFVIII, in Monstrosity has helped my wounds heal.

Like any other company, they have to budget and prioritize resources. They should have been more careful with the announcement about the new avatars considering how harsh and critical of every move they make the forum base is.
I'm glad they have devoted their time to making quests, lore, and new systems in lieu of focusing their time trying to implement 2 avatars for 1 job in a game with so many others. I'd love to see Cait Sith and Atomos, but knowing dev resources in this game are tight one can only hope for so much. I'd much rather see SMN as a job fixed with said resources than to see a couple of flavor pets, if I can't have both.

[Sasaraixx]

I'd much rather see SMN as a job fixed with said resources than to see a couple of flavor pets, if I can't have both.

But you aren't going to get that either, so your point is moot. We've been asking for SMN fixes longer than we've been waiting for these avatars.

And it has nothing to do with how harsh the forum base is. It has been years since they were announced and every "update" we have received has just said "we have other priorities , please wait a little longer." We are far past a little longer. I honestly don't care anymore. Any interest I had in them has long since vanished because 1. I have little faith they will actually be useful and 2. it's taken so bloody long.

We all know there has been major content added and that there are few resources available to the XI team. Nonetheless, it still reflects poorly on the team when content continues to be delayed.

[FaeQueenCory]

Like any other company, they have to budget and prioritize resources. They should have been more careful with the announcement about the new avatars considering how harsh and critical of every move they make the forum base is.
I'm glad they have devoted their time to making quests, lore, and new systems in lieu of focusing their time trying to implement 2 avatars for 1 job in a game with so many others. I'd love to see Cait Sith and Atomos, but knowing dev resources in this game are tight one can only hope for so much. I'd much rather see SMN as a job fixed with said resources than to see a couple of flavor pets, if I can't have both.

The bold..... so much the bold........
What's really sad is that "fixing" smn... or at least a cursory fix.... would take all of 10min: adjust variable Blood Pact Timer Cap 45=>30s
There's some other stuff that need real fixing.... but if the timer cap was adjusted, having weaker wards and whatnot can come later.

EDIT:

We all know there has been major content added and that there are few resources available to the XI team. Nonetheless, it still reflects poorly on the team when content continues to be delayed.

In their defense, do you have any idea how time consuming FMVs are?
Dear God.
It's one of the most obnoxious things to program.
It's not like adding to a trade table (you can use excell and/or notepad? you can do this).
It's not like adding jobs to Relics and Empys (90% of progamming can be done in either excell or notepad... it's kinda sad...).
It's not even like adjusting or adding stats to items.
Or even adding new spells/items to the game.
FMVs take FOREVER to make.... because unlike all the previously mentioned things... you can't take an afternoon and do it by yourself.

[Sasaraixx]

In their defense, do you have any idea how time consuming FMVs are?

Does 3 years sound right? And are you implying that they underestimated how long it would take them to complete this task? (The avatars appeared on the road maps until they were removed.)

I think no matter how you answer either of those questions you are still left with the fact that this has been poorly handled.