RME upgrading...

[predatory]

That's really the nice thing about the RME update which everyone keeps acting like its horrible. The RMEs are not so amazing they make the Delve weapons worthless or pale in comparison, while yes, some people will be mad they are not super duper amazing weapons from the gods themselves, I am honestly happy the gap is smaller rather than larger, they are strong enough to be better, weak enough to be able to be dealt without. This means, no RME119 only shouts, no requirements of having one, no getting called gimp without one, so on, just if you want one, get one, shows your dedicated to that job, if you do not have one, you can still use 119 weapons and be just slightly weaker, oh no.

Well if you love the system for upgrading RMEs and AF so much, hop to it, if you're truly upgrading AF and RMEs well bully for you, but you seem to spend alot of time trolling the forums for someone with so much on his plate

[Anjou]

Well if you love the system for upgrading RMEs and AF so much, hop to it, if you're truly upgrading AF and RMEs well bully for you, but you seem to spend alot of time trolling the forums for someone with so much on his plate

Eh I kinda have to say that I see Demon playing a lot actually, a multi tasker but he gets a lot of things done ingame. o. o

[Demon6324236]

I normally post while waiting on things. Doing Monstrosity with 5 mobs on me, afk, post some, come back. Gathering for Delve, tell the leader to send me a tell when were about to enter, look back to the forums for more posting. Doing Skirmish and we have 2 BLMs dominating everything, well, no need to pay attention there, I know what to do...

I do not troll from what I understand it to mean, trolling being when you post only to make others angry or annoy them, I post to make a point, sometimes I do it normally, sometimes argumentatively, sometimes sarcastically, but I am always trying to make a point, its just a matter of if its lost on you or not.

[Camiie]

They were already upgraded once, why should a person have to redo all that work, just to make them as strong as a Delve you can farm in a week. wtf is wrong with you people?

What do you have to redo? Last I checked you had to collect 300 of some brand new item to give your weapon a 20 level upgrade. That's beans compared to the previous trials. If you could gather up 1500 HMPs then this is a cakewalk for you.

As others have said they're superior to delve weapons, but not so superior or so easy to obtain that they adversely affect everyone else in the game that doesn't have the resources to make one. You get to be at the top of the DPS chain, have a prestigious item, and you're not hurting anyone else in the process. I don't see how that's not a great solution for the game as a whole.

[Ravenmore]

What do you have to redo? Last I checked you had to collect 300 of some brand new item to give your weapon a 20 level upgrade. That's beans compared to the previous trials. If you could gather up 1500 HMPs then this is a cakewalk for you.

As others have said they're superior to delve weapons, but not so superior or so easy to obtain that they adversely affect everyone else in the game that doesn't have the resources to make one. You get to be at the top of the DPS chain, have a prestigious item, and you're not hurting anyone else in the process. I don't see how that's not a great solution for the game as a whole.

That is what I'm saying for the first time they didn't massively over correct. The items drop enough to keep the price reasonable and at the same time low enough to revive old content(and some not so old) that was just sitting there as everyone sat in town moaning how there was nothing to do. As time goes on the price will drop even lower. Really should be happy they listened in the first place and if you been playing this game long enough to have a REM you should know how SE treats the items needed to upgrade them.

[predatory]

Lol if this was such a great idea, why didn't anyone come back to take advantage of it? Could it be possible that RME owners who haven't returned haven't returned because they already paid their dues on their weapons and don't feel like spending another few months rebuilding them? While you guys cheer SE on in this you're giving them the idea they are doing it right, but if they were the servers would be filling back up rather than bleeding out. If you guys really want to save this game and make it last a few more years, then you need to stop being head cheerleaders for massive fuck ups. We need to point the developers in a direction that's going to make people like me that want content vs time sinks back to the game, and there are alot of us out there. The only reason I post on these boards is to let them know they are headed in the wrong direction to bring us back, and hopefully they get it right soon, because I would love nothing more than to play the game again, but I refuse to pay for a broken product, and this is definitely a broken product. You know how you can tell it's broken? Me and 1600 other people left because of the SoA fuck up, and they think we are going to come back because they make an update where we can upgrade our af to geo run af levels but only if we spent 20x the time involved getting geo and run af sets, or people who left that built rme's will come back so they can spend another 6 months upgrading them. Get it now? They fucked up and before anyone will come back they need to fix the flaw, you guys who are telling them they are doing it right, are obviously in the minority, because me and 1600 na prime time players on each server say they're doing it wrong. You may post here on these boards a lot, but you are in the minority

edited because this whole conversation pisses me off and if I said what I really meant to say they'd probably perma-ban me

[Draylo]

Lol if this was such a great idea, why didn't anyone come back to take advantage of it? Could it be possible that RME owners who haven't returned haven't returned because they already paid their dues on their weapons and don't feel like spending another few months rebuilding them? While you guys cheer SE on in this you're giving them the idea they are doing it right, but if they were the servers would be filling back up rather than bleeding out. If you guys really want to save this game and make it last a few more years, then you need to stop being head cheerleaders for massive fuck ups. We need to point the developers in a direction that's going to make people like me that want content vs time sinks back to the game, and there are alot of us out there. The only reason I post on these boards is to let them know they are headed in the wrong direction to bring us back, and hopefully they get it right soon, because I would love nothing more than to play the game again, but I refuse to pay for a broken product, and this is definitely a broken product. You know how you can tell it's broken? Me and 1600 other people left because of the SoA fuck up, and they think we are going to come back because they make an update where we can upgrade our af to geo run af levels but only if we spent 20x the time involved getting geo and run af sets, or people who left that built rme's will come back so they can spend another 6 months upgrading them. Get it now? They fucked up and before anyone will come back they need to fix the flaw, you guys who are telling them they are doing it right, are obviously in the minority, because me and 1600 na prime time players on each server say they're doing it wrong. You may post here on these boards a lot, but you are in the minority

edited because this whole conversation pisses me off and if I said what I really meant to say they'd probably perma-ban me

Wow so much angst. It does not take a long time to get the new version of AF at all.... Hardest difficulty everyone gets 4 pages to their own loot pool per orb and you get 3~4 in the pool. It takes only a few hours with this campaign to farm 20 seals. The whole thing was a grind and mega time sink before SOA as well, what are you smoking? Farming dyna 24/7 or some other money activity to buy your way to a REM. THEN you had to do trials on trash mobs over and over for the finished product. What part of that is not a time sink? Do you realize what an MMO is? Did you expect to log in to an instantly powered up REM for no effort? Get real.

[Draylo]

Well if you love the system for upgrading RMEs and AF so much, hop to it, if you're truly upgrading AF and RMEs well bully for you, but you seem to spend alot of time trolling the forums for someone with so much on his plate

People can post on these forums and still enjoy/play the game... Sooo bitter.

[Demon6324236]

Lol if this was such a great idea, why didn't anyone come back to take advantage of it? Could it be possible that RME owners who haven't returned haven't returned because they already paid their dues on their weapons and don't feel like spending another few months rebuilding them?

I can think of a few reasons. They left and found something else. They left and noticed how much they wanted to leave, but were kept by friends or the sense of having to much to leave behind. They stay away because they do not want to work on catching back up to everyone else now that they fell behind so much with next to no chance of returning. They do not return because their friends left too, and are not in contact with them anymore or they simply do not want to return, meaning they would be returning alone. Many reasons.

While you guys cheer SE on in this you're giving them the idea they are doing it right, but if they were the servers would be filling back up rather than bleeding out. If you guys really want to save this game and make it last a few more years, then you need to stop being head cheerleaders for massive fuck ups. We need to point the developers in a direction that's going to make people like me that want content vs time sinks back to the game, and there are alot of us out there.

A massive fk up would be to leave the game without anything to do or without any incentive to do it.

The only reason I post on these boards is to let them know they are headed in the wrong direction to bring us back, and hopefully they get it right soon, because I would love nothing more than to play the game again, but I refuse to pay for a broken product, and this is definitely a broken product. You know how you can tell it's broken? Me and 1600 other people left because of the SoA fuck up, and they think we are going to come back because they make an update where we can upgrade our af to geo run af levels but only if we spent 20x the time involved getting geo and run af sets, or people who left that built rme's will come back so they can spend another 6 months upgrading them.

Honestly it would be stupid to invest in things to bring people back, most people wont come back no matter what they did because simply put we have played this game so long and we see how it goes, if you can get out, run, and never come back, because the service is not that great normally and it never seems to get better. The people who are here are normally here for friends or for the fact they invested so much into the game already, and want to leave neither behind, and once they leave, they either come back for friends/nostalgia, or the stay gone.

Get it now? They fucked up and before anyone will come back they need to fix the flaw, you guys who are telling them they are doing it right, are obviously in the minority, because me and 1600 na prime time players on each server say they're doing it wrong. You may post here on these boards a lot, but you are in the minority

Actually no, I count your vote as a vote of 1, uno, ichi, not any more than that. You can not speak for 1600 other people all on your own and expect anyone else to listen to you. if you want to count the people who left as votes in agreement with you, your a fool, because simply put had I quit, you would not be representing me at all, and trust me, were it not for friends, I would have quit long ago, not to mention right after this most recent of updates.

[predatory]

I can think of a few reasons. They left and found something else. They left and noticed how much they wanted to leave, but were kept by friends or the sense of having to much to leave behind. They stay away because they do not want to work on catching back up to everyone else now that they fell behind so much with next to no chance of returning. They do not return because their friends left too, and are not in contact with them anymore or they simply do not want to return, meaning they would be returning alone. Many reasons.

A massive fk up would be to leave the game without anything to do or without any incentive to do it.

Honestly it would be stupid to invest in things to bring people back, most people wont come back no matter what they did because simply put we have played this game so long and we see how it goes, if you can get out, run, and never come back, because the service is not that great normally and it never seems to get better. The people who are here are normally here for friends or for the fact they invested so much into the game already, and want to leave neither behind, and once they leave, they either come back for friends/nostalgia, or the stay gone.

Actually no, I count your vote as a vote of 1, uno, ichi, not any more than that. You can not speak for 1600 other people all on your own and expect anyone else to listen to you. if you want to count the people who left as votes in agreement with you, your a fool, because simply put had I quit, you would not be representing me at all, and trust me, were it not for friends, I would have quit long ago, not to mention right after this most recent of updates.

You have a post count of 4258 posts on feedback forums and I'm the fool?