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    Player Anjou's Avatar
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    Personally I could care less whether or not a story holds water. The fact of the matter, is that yes people thought their RME's were getting their deserved upgrade, but no turns out there's one more grind fest. This game was sadly never meant to be easy, nor was it meant to be fair. What makes me uneasy however, is the lack of information until before the update hits, as people had no time to even get things prepared.

    All in all, we can have all the great updates monthly like the system is gonna be now, but tbh I'd rather talk to the devs and establish a good communication system so we're not left in the dark anymore like we have been, and then listen to this on the forums.

    Af armor I like, but not something I'll -immediately- prioritize, as there's other options to use. But you can bet your hind end that I'll eventually get to it, I just don't wanna burn myself out trying to get it all at once, what's the point of a game if we got it all? Not only that, but farming crests is a pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjou View Post
    Personally I could care less whether or not a story holds water. The fact of the matter, is that yes people thought their RME's were getting their deserved upgrade, but no turns out there's one more grind fest. This game was sadly never meant to be easy, nor was it meant to be fair. What makes me uneasy however, is the lack of information until before the update hits, as people had no time to even get things prepared.

    All in all, we can have all the great updates monthly like the system is gonna be now, but tbh I'd rather talk to the devs and establish a good communication system so we're not left in the dark anymore like we have been, and then listen to this on the forums.

    Af armor I like, but not something I'll -immediately- prioritize, as there's other options to use. But you can bet your hind end that I'll eventually get to it, I just don't wanna burn myself out trying to get it all at once, what's the point of a game if we got it all? Not only that, but farming crests is a pain.
    Frankly the amount of communication we have now is light years ahead of what we had back in the good old days. Anyone that wasn't expecting another grind for their REMs were kidding them selves. It's a MMO based off a JRPG these things are to be expected. Could have been much worse they could had put the items in dyna on one NM or made them also drop off ADL. Also it would be down right stupid to give out that information before hand no mmo dev does that it is quit simple why they wouldn't.

    They have been listening how do you think we got here. People whined at how easy abyssea was and they wanted alliance based content back then we got VW. They complained and said they wanted a point based system that you could grind to the rewards, that is what we got in delve. Beat a NM once then you could buy it's drops with plasma or if you got lucky got it direct drop. After that people were complaining about not having the grind anymore saying how they missed old endgame well we got the grind back but they also whined about lock outs so they had to put up another type of road block(don't even kid your self all MMOs are about slowing you down to extend content life).

    Many my self included hated how far ahead REMs were(mainly relics for me, they were far to common to have such a large lead) and they listen and relics are about 5% head of delve boss drops. Then we had the stat vomit that is on all the new gear, another item the player base on this forum begged for, remember all the gear swapping hate people were throwing around. Finally what lead to the ilvl was people were saying how sick they were of the sidegrade gear at 75 and in VW once we hit 99..
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Yes, they should have given us all free upgrades on our 99 RMEs instantly and then on top of that made easy NMs to kill for quests that take less than a day to do so we have our full RF and our RMEs a day or two after the update. Then for the next month we can stand around in Adoulin complaining about how we have no new content. Totally agree, awesome idea, why didn't I think of it sooner!
    This update only brought a few if any back to upgrade those items, and more than a few that are left are pissed off about this fuckarow, so go ahead stand there and cheer SE on as the game dies around you, and pretty soon you can be on a server of one, and then you can happily cheer away every decision they make by yourself
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  4. #124
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    €°(((><

    Figured I'd post my experiences on our first try on the new Kindred Spirits battlefield, and I'll quote the following for some reference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Have you done the new BCNM? There have different difficulty levels. Normal was a joke it probably can be beat with 2 or 3 people. Took 6 people and destroyed it on normal the mobs hardly hit for any damage at all. Really only level 4 or 5 are very challenging and require a full group.

    I haven't done easy or very easy but I assume they are soloable. There is your solo option.

    If you only have a small number of people, do 2 normal mode bcnm instead of going for level 5. You get 3 drops from level 3, 5 drops from level 5, but level 3 is so easy you can easily low man it.
    A group of 4 got defeated in about 20 seconds on normal difficulty (WHM, GEO, SAM, RUN).

    Geomancer and Runefencer have their artifact equipment, no stuff from Skirmish nor Menace Inspection. Samurai and White Mage only have Empyrean +2 slash Salvage II equipment.

    I guess I'm not going to upgrade them weapons this way, at least not for a while. :D

    (I'd still like to get some artifact armour, so perhaps very easy is the thing to try next...)
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    Why even try that set up knowing full well you had players (your main DD sam) under geared and no where near ready to take it on. both run and geo may had been wasted slots as well. So it's worth little to show how the fights are.
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    Going in with no crowd control and undergeared DDs is no way to go through life.
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  7. #127
    Player Dragoy's Avatar
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    Ravenmore, detlef,

    Simply to see what it is like.

    That's the way we do things; experiment with some trial here and error there, while also having some fun. It's quite difficult to gauge from reading only about people doing it with more current equipment. In this scenario, the SAM and WHM have no access to Adōulin at all, which sets its own kind of a challenge to it.
    That said, the fight did go pretty much how I expected it to go, and we should have gone with very easy for starters. Perhaps we'll last 30 seconds there!

    For what it's worth, I do realise that posting about such experiences might not prove to be useful to many, and that our set-up is what it is, so I apologise to those who might feel offended by it; 'tis certainly not intended. ^^

    The intention was to expand upon the view(s) on the battlefield(s) a little bit at least.


    Thank you for your input.
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  8. #128
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    I'm just saying that you had to know that the new BC would simply be a harder version of old BC, so you would've known before entering that there would be multiple mobs that would need to be dealt with. It just sounds like you didn't even have a plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by predatory View Post
    This update only brought a few if any back to upgrade those items, and more than a few that are left are pissed off about this fuckarow, so go ahead stand there and cheer SE on as the game dies around you, and pretty soon you can be on a server of one, and then you can happily cheer away every decision they make by yourself
    If more fools and lazy people want to leave or stay gone I will be happy, to many people stand around as is... The thing is, people haven't done the math, when we get updates, we get a certain amount of stuff, more RMEs = less content, more AF = less content, had they implemented those easily, we would have the new WK to do right now, that's the entirety of what everyone would do, nothing else is new unless you count PvM from Monstrosity. In order to make up for that lack of content/'shit to do' I am perfectly fine with RMEs taking a bit more work and RF gear taking some time to obtain.
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    Just did a very difficult mode SKC10, dropped 1 single and one parcel of beitetsu. The bad news is that boxes still don't seem to drop, the good news is that SKCx10 is fairly easy to farm especially now, though TBH matamata spam is much faster and easier ...
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