Quote Originally Posted by Stompa View Post
Yeah but some of us don't have millions of seals. For example I converted countless thousands of seals into kindred seals to spam ks99 for the sole purpose of helping LS Members obtain their Black Belt items. I lost count of how many times I did this in the last few years. I don't even play monk but I was happy to use my seals to help LS members.

To recap ; the Af1 99 upgrade path is bloody awful. The finished Af1-99 is practically the same as the higher end bayld & skirmish armors which can be obtained in absolutely no time and being AFK too. To have to grind 1000s of bcnm crests to upgrade some af1 sets is bullshit, when you consider they are not that much better than what is available for free with 18k Bayld. Add to that the low server numbers, and the fact that most ppl spamming those bcnms are doing so in statics on their endgame LS, what you have got is a new Af1 upgrade system that penalises solo players and players who are on low-man LS, or simply in LS (like mine) that are nearly empty since SoA arrived and pissed everyone off and made them play Tetris instead.

Even if the spamming bcnm requirement for multiple sets of upgraded af1 were actually just CS trigger soloable bcnms, and not requiring thousands of crests, it would still be a fairly bullshit system compared to storyline reward systems and quest-specific battlefields. But if the upgrading Af1 via solo bcnm option was there I would take it, because nobody on my LS wants to upgrade af1 and ppl arent doing PUGs for it either. So SE designed a brand new brick wall for people to be brought to a dead stop by. Praise Altana.
That's true. Not everyone has the resources I do... but I didn't mean to imply that you did too.
I was just saying that having the conversion option alleviates the need to farm SKCs exclusively. Because even if you don't have a bajillion seals, the "dead seal drops" that you get while farming the SKC can then become SKC and thus aren't dead drops anymore.

The MNKs I know had gotten their BB a long time ago... So the only BCNMs that I have ever needed seals to help someone else has been the Beastmen Seal seals....
But yeah, my point was that having the conversion means that any other seals that drop while farming the SKC will hold the potential to be a SKC too.
Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
Have you done the new BCNM? There have different difficulty levels. Normal was a joke it probably can be beat with 2 or 3 people. Took 6 people and destroyed it on normal the mobs hardly hit for any damage at all. Really only level 4 or 5 are very challenging and require a full group.

I haven't done easy or very easy but I assume they are soloable. There is your solo option.

If you only have a small number of people, do 2 normal mode bcnm instead of going for level 5. You get 3 drops from level 3, 5 drops from level 5, but level 3 is so easy you can easily low man it.
This is very good to hear.... buuuuut... the 1:1 page:BCNM pop requires 1000 SKCs just to 109ify a single set...
while having the solo option is good.
And it's even feasible.... if the conversion was allowable.

Most people do not have all jobs at 99.
But most people DO have 2-3 jobs leveled to 99 that they will want 109ification for.... at least.
So... basically we really need the conversion to let everyone have access.

Quote Originally Posted by Stompa View Post
Tbh I haven't tried because I'm still farming SKC. Also I wasn't sure if it had entry requirement 6/6. It doesn't say 1-6 players it says requirement 6. On POL, under the "upgrade AF" tab it also says 20 kindred's crests, rather than SKC. Again that confused me. I have a fairly confused factory-setting to begin with (getting old!) so those POL announcements don't help.

I have only heard of people doing it on 6/6. If it is soloable or duoable they should say that on POL. What they said "20 kindreds crests to enter" shouldn't that say 20 SKC? And it says"restrictions : 6 persons" normally it would say "1-6 persons" if it was soloable. Seriously though if it is duoable I have a friend who wants to build the new AF. I'm certainly happy to try, I've been soloing bcnm for a long time. I just wasn't sure if they locked it for 6 person only. Also not sure if it can be done by two people in 30 mins. A lot of solo/low man stuff like this results in the mob on like 2% and you time out, which is ok if its just a mission battlefield but it sucks when you are losing 20 SKC for it.
As it is, a) I'm still farming the SKCs and b) as other have pointed out this system is mega b@ll$, AF should never involve farming thousands of seals, and more so when equally powerful armors can be obtained for like 0.01% of the effort in skirmish or from the Peacekeepers lol. Its just a fail idea, and I realise they are "organic process" and trying stuff out, but I think they made an error on it to use bcnm and crests.
But I will get an orb tomorrow and try to enter on solo or duo. But that doesn't change the fact that its a dumb system really, theres like 100 other ways they could have upgraded af1 without losing any of the work ethic or challenge. And those ways would be more fun too.
That's all translation "error".
You see... Japanese is... something.
The Japanese you'll learn in a university classroom is nothing like the Japanese people speak...
Every language has dialects... but this isn't a dialectal thing...
The truth is.... Japanese people don't speak in full sentences.
Like... 70% of sentences spoken will be just a verb, or just a noun... nothing else.
And this happens in writing too... though less frequently in text than in rl speech.
The thing is, Japanese is a 100% context based language. Hence why "kindred crests" is in the notes... because Japanese is contextual, makes that mean the Sacred Kindred Crests....
Though it's been almost a week since I looked at the original JP announcement... soooooooo... I could be misremembering and it's just a localization error.
But recall that it was just "demon seal" and not "holy demon seal"... But I could be misremembering.