MASSIVE monipulator nerf: most MONs, even mages, only have WAR traits now

[dasva]

Greetings,

As mentioned in this news update, monstrosity monsters' missing support job abilities were confirmed as a bug and have since been addressed. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

Not sure if this is a mistype or not but support job abilities are still missing. The maintencen did restore job traits if that's what you meant

[Babekeke]

Not sure if this is a mistype or not but support job abilities are still missing. The maintenance did restore job traits if that's what you meant

Is this confirmed as true for all jobs? They have said that not all job abilities will be available (retalliation for one >< ), so when I noticed that I don't have ES as RDM/BLM Ceourl, I just assumed ES was one that I couldn't get. And no new JA for BLM until 76, which is another 10 levels away for me.

[Fynlar]

My guess is that there is some sort of hiccup with getting us to have two "main jobs" worth of JAs available at the same time (which would, theoretically, mean we'd have access to two SP abilities at the same time, not to mention potentially a whole bunch of other JAs which at one point was a problem in terms of what the game could handle at once, as indicated in the past by things like Steal/Despoil having shared recast timers)

Regardless of the reason, I'm still laughing at the fact that even as monipulators, we're still having to wait for our "second" SP abilities

[Demon6324236]

Some things like Retaliation shouldn't have been removed, others like Trick Attack should have been, but only till the Party feature is introduced, and then things like Warp are understandably worthless, and gone for good. I hope they change some of this. I feel as though Retaliation was removed only to prevent people from AoE killing mass amounts of enemies, which in all honesty, should be allowed. We level much to slowly, its worse than leveling normal jobs, at least with normal jobs its only 22, and you can pick whichever 1 you want & go, with mobs, we have to level tons of mobs to get to certain ones, like for instance I think Behemoth requires like 5 mobs to 75+ levels or so in order to unlock it, that's outrageous! If we have to do all this, we should have access to that JA, which would speed it up quite a bit.

[dasva]

Is this confirmed as true for all jobs? They have said that not all job abilities will be available (retalliation for one >< ), so when I noticed that I don't have ES as RDM/BLM Ceourl, I just assumed ES was one that I couldn't get. And no new JA for BLM until 76, which is another 10 levels away for me.

hmmm I didn't check other jobs that said my war/thf mob at level 37 only has war moves so that's 6 missing thf moves making me wonder if thf gest any lol

[scaevola]

Some things like Retaliation shouldn't have been removed, others like Trick Attack should have been, but only till the Party feature is introduced, and then things like Warp are understandably worthless, and gone for good. I hope they change some of this. I feel as though Retaliation was removed only to prevent people from AoE killing mass amounts of enemies, which in all honesty, should be allowed. We level much to slowly, its worse than leveling normal jobs, at least with normal jobs its only 22, and you can pick whichever 1 you want & go, with mobs, we have to level tons of mobs to get to certain ones, like for instance I think Behemoth requires like 5 mobs to 75+ levels or so in order to unlock it, that's outrageous! If we have to do all this, we should have access to that JA, which would speed it up quite a bit.

Retaliation would create PvP problems that probably aren't worth dealing with.