PS2 limitation new Zone solution.

[rog]

I agree, is in some sense a bit crude for PS2 not be able to join new zone, but could be worse... Eventually they wont have choice to swap, is same as i said before, PS2 can't play 14 and please don't get to conclusion is reason why 14 is not a great success ><

Hmmm, i kinda lost track of Everyquest.... IS EQ1 still more popular then EQ2? If yes, then i guess SE should learn about this, i know EQ2 had very hard time at start...

Anyway, EQ1 never died and will probably never since company still put new content in it none stop, for XI it seem they won't have that luck till they make the right choice, and to say people will start play 14 just to get ride of limitation, is like dreaming. I would rather play something totally new instead, which involve totally new monster, totally new concept...

in my head is clear, i end to spend too many year into XI to restart all over again in 14. Is not like i only loose progress i did, but also loosing my friend-environment.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

[Ilax]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

ah ok because you have better one?

Regression >> progression right?

[rog]

ah ok because you have better one?

Yes. The ONLY limitation imposed by the ps2 is its 32 mb of ram. Nothing else. There is no real limit to zones, gear, monsters, etc. They can add as many new zones/gear/mobs as they want, and it won't require even a single extra byte of ram.

Regression >> progression right?

Removing access for ps2 players and getting absolutely nothing in return for it is just silly.

[Ilax]

Yes. The ONLY limitation imposed by the ps2 is its 32 mb of ram. Nothing else. There is no real limit to zones, gear, monsters, etc. They can add as many new zones/gear/mobs as they want, and it won't require even a single extra byte of ram.

32 meg is crazy limited, you have any knowledge in programming? Is already amazing the game able to run with only that.

[Nephilipitou]

For people who just cant afford to get a computer,

There are people playing this game on PS2 who can't afford a netbook or don't even have a 5 year old computer? This game isn't taxing. A 200-300 dollar netbook can do it. They could even get a 360 to play it since you don't have to have an XBLG account to play FFXI. I'd like to see what the minimum PC specs to getting it functioning at or better than PS2 quality would take.

But if they can't afford to get a computer that is powerful enough to play FFXI I think they have much more important problems than not being able to play Abyssea content. Like having virtually no money. I'm sure if they pawned off stuff they didn't need, use, or sell some of their old games, they could get enough money to buy a computer powerful enough.

I don't think those arguments are valid.

Having content that you can not buy through the PS2 version shouldn't be an issue, however I would argue that they fixed the PS2 limitations. Before with an update all the files would be downloaded then rewritten aftewards.

Now a file is rewritten after its replacement is downloaded. So a 3GB update would need 6-7GB of free space (including a few hundred to a gig's worth of free space for various data related needs such as temporary files)

That's why some people couldn't download updates without reinstalling FFXI on their hard drive. If they drop Xbox/PS2 support I'd hope that they'd bring on a graphical overhaul along with it since FFXIV started off as a Graphics upgrade for XI. I'd like to see them do it in the middle range though.

So I think that we should be good to get to 99 at this point personally but then again I'm just going off of what devs have said and making my own conclusions. I'm not a dev myself.

[NightDagger]

Pc/x360 versions already use better quality graphics than than the ps2. Not sure why you think that would require limiting zones/gear only to pc/x360 players.

exactly right.

I went out & bought the game for 360 due to the poor graphics on my PS2. But we have to realize something here. The PS2 was the original release. It is hard for a company to drop their "baby". Now i have been trying to find a mod that you could do to the PS2 to increase the RDRAM. It is possible but just how far can you go?

Another thing I am curious is why would they not make it for PS3, I am unable to find the exact reason so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.

[Ilax]

There are people playing this game on PS2 who can't afford a netbook or don't even have a 5 year old computer? This game isn't taxing. A 200-300 dollar netbook can do it. They could even get a 360 to play it since you don't have to have an XBLG account to play FFXI. I'd like to see what the minimum PC specs to getting it functioning at or better than PS2 quality would take.

But if they can't afford to get a computer that is powerful enough to play FFXI I think they have much more important problems than not being able to play Abyssea content. Like having virtually no money. I'm sure if they pawned off stuff they didn't need, use, or sell some of their old games, they could get enough money to buy a computer powerful enough.

I don't think those arguments are valid.

They are not for sure, even SE at this point could give them a computer for free... I mean jeez even Bell Canada was giving Laptop for new customer for only 10$/month...

[rog]

32 meg is crazy limited, you have any knowledge in programming? Is already amazing the game able to run with only that.

Yes, and increasing the value of a variable does not use any more ram.

[rog]

Another thing I am curious is why would they not make it for PS3, I am unable to find the exact reason so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.

Sony requires ps2 ports to get an HD update. I'm not sure what exactly would be required for that, but apparently it's too much effort for SE.

[Ilax]

Another thing I am curious is why would they not make it for PS3, I am unable to find the exact reason so if someone could enlighten me that would be great.

Extra cost that would give no benefit to SE... Not like would give any for us too.