Your actions are making the entire FFXI community suffer

[Daemon]

Please find a post where I have advised people to skip things because they are irrelevant (besides leveling, XP parties have always been irrelevant to learning a job. Please start that bullshit argument again, that's all this thread needs to go full retard.). I am fully aware that nearly every post-75 event in the game offers situational gear (which is what nearly every piece of gear in the game is) for nearly every job. I fully support tackling lower tier content before higher content. I'm trying to push my LS into doing Legion as a prep for Delve MB runs (as a group we've never done Legion, and while the strategies are certainly different it is an opportunity to practice BRD/COR rotations and Stun rotations in a high pressure, time constricted environment).

As far as players who haven't "earned" an E/R/M weapon not being responsible - what the hell does that even mean? I (and many others) are perfectly capable of setting long term goals for myself and accomplishing them. How do you train to "earn" an E/R/M? Does it mean less if you earn gil in other ways and buy what you need or does it only count if you earn every piece of currency (or alexandrite, or w/e you empy upgrade items are) yourself? Do you then have to get every ADL drop from only ADLs you fight (or PW drops, or w/e your empy item is)?

Condescending and dickish.

PS: Feel free to continue to edit your posts and add new points as you do. I've pointed out before it makes you look like an amateur but you continue to do it. Last time your excuse was you were spinning and had to change records, what is it this time?

ProTip: If you don't have the time to post it can wait until you finish whatever it is your doing so you can express everything you want to express at once. Otherwise either make another post, or just stop posting.

Hypocritical Don't you think? You are calling me "Dickish" and continue to disrespect me. Amateur? Well I never called you names, judged you, treated you the way you've been treating me. And yes I have to edit my posts because I'm not on computer right now.

[Sparthos]

Drop your ego.

You were proven wrong on a topic and while you have the right spirit regarding helping others, you arent entitled to your own facts. If you feel so strongly about something either use math or provide data to support your arguments. Doing either isnt elitist, it simply removes opinion and replaces it with a universally understood medium of communication.

The reason people consider the OF to be complete garbage that circles the toilet bowl is because opinion is presented as fact and criticism is taken as personal attack. I personally dont care about whatpeople do on their free XI time but when someone posts erroneus facts you should be peer reviewed to refine what is churned out,

[Daemon]

Drop your ego.

You were proven wrong on a topic and while you have the right spirit regarding helping others, you arent entitled to your own facts. If you feel so strongly about something either use math or provide data to support your arguments. Doing either isnt elitist, it simply removes opinion and replaces it with a universally understood medium of communication.

The reason people consider the OF to be complete garbage that circles the toilet bowl is because opinion is presented as fact and criticism is taken as personal attack. I personally dont care about whatpeople do on their free XI time but when someone posts erroneus facts you should be peer reviewed to refine what is churned out,

I've been trying to help others. What have you been doing? And had you even read my posts you'd see that. Skipping parts and making assumptions without knowing the reasons and then feeling the need of pointing me out on error as if you are far more superior only shows that no one can have an opinion.

Drop your attitude

And I have no other need to continue wasting my time responding to negative posts. If you want to continue being self absorbed in your superiorness you are showing everyone exactly the reason why I brought up this topic. Enjoy your FFXI because I no longer will be here. Way too many people with bad attitudes and definitely not enough people helping others.

[Slaxx]

I had a fairly long post praising Sparthos for addressing you with the respect you don't deserve but I accidentally refreshed the page and lost it.

Instead I will just say enjoy whatever you do in the future, you won't be missed.

[Daemon]

And by the way. Here is a fact for you negative people out there. Had "SE NOT ANNOUNCE UPGRADES FOR REM."

Then you could criticize me about how worthless they are.

But telling others "IT'S WORTHLESS DON'T EVEN BOTHER WASTING YOUR TIME"

I can't wait to see the reactions of others if the upgrades come out to be so awesome that all those people you told NOT to work on one will be left dissapointed because they did not have it ready by the time the update happens.

And for those of you doubting that SE will update them.

Had not a huge portion of the server complain and threaten to rage quit to the point devs had to step in and respond. Then I could follow you on your doubts.

But go ahead and encourage others how worthless it is to set goals for themselves.

[Karah]

Campers, it's a little late for the warning, but you're going to need your rubber booties. It's piling up in here.

The last thing I want to do is contribute to this thread anymore... I mean come on. This guy is just talking to hear his own voice. Replying to every single post, multi-posting etc. Just let it go.

There is a clear break down in fundamental understanding going on in here and 22 pages is 21 too many.

[Vil]

I don't know about you, but I cannot in good faith suggest friend spend millions of gil on something that may see a slight boost, or no boost at all. That's just it: we don't know. We can't predict Matsui's pattern of content, except that he has a lot of fixing to do. They probably don't even know where to begin.

I see both sides of the argument, and basically what it all boils down to is: how people choose to spend their time.

The "elitist" camp chooses to use it efficiently, and for them, the progression at this pace is their idea of fun. there are some players in that camp that don't have all the time in the world to play, so 3 hours or so with a strategy that has been proven to work is the most ideal for them.

then you have your camp, which likes to do things outside the box, try new things. For you, that is how to choose to spend your time.

There is no right or wrong way to play, and yelling at the others' camp for not spending their time like you is a bit unfair. You can't really generalize these people into all being elitist pricks who are only out for themselves. Progression is their fun, trial-and-error is yours. Neither are wrong, just different.

Ultimately, this is when two of the worst things in XI collide: poor content design, and the huge time sink this game has always been.

[Slaxx]

SE has not in fact announced upgrades to R/E/M. They have announced that are under consideration and development but are certainly not part of any current update map. Please stick with the "facts", SMNs were promised 2 new avatars, new "2-hour" abilities have been in development for a year (? longer?). Until it has been announced that they are being upgraded in a certain update (with a firm date) the R/E/M upgrade is not a "fact".

Please note, I am not saying that there will not be R/E/M upgrades. I am saying that they are not a "fact".

And even once those upgrades are announced (if they are) who are you to say they will be better than Delve weapons? The one example they have showed us was clearly said to be an example, not to be taken as a finished product. If they are better than Delve weapons will they be better than whatever comes after Delve weapons? I find it hard to believe that items and gear introduced in the first month of this expansion will be the best it has to offer (that's an opinion in case you didn't notice, I'm not spewing "facts").

[Daemon]

I don't know about you, but I cannot in good faith suggest friend spend millions of gil on something that may see a slight boost, or no boost at all. That's just it: we don't know. We can't predict Matsui's pattern of content, except that he has a lot of fixing to do. They probably don't even know where to begin.

I see both sides of the argument, and basically what it all boils down to is: how people choose to spend their time.

The "elitist" camp chooses to use it efficiently, and for them, the progression at this pace is their idea of fun. there are some players in that camp that don't have all the time in the world to play, so 3 hours or so with a strategy that has been proven to work is the most ideal for them.

then you have your camp, which likes to do things outside the box, try new things. For you, that is how to choose to spend your time.

There is no right or wrong way to play, and yelling at the others' camp for not spending their time like you is a bit unfair. You can't really generalize these people into all being elitist pricks who are only out for themselves. Progression is their fun, trial-and-error is yours. Neither are wrong, just different.

Ultimately, this is when two of the worst things in XI collide: poor content design, and the huge time sink this game has always been.

See I can show respect to you because instead of sending me a personal attack criticizing me. You pointed out your opinion respectfully.

The bad thing about reading and not actually talking in person is that words on screen could mean a million things and people can take it the wrong way. Because everyone can look at words and take the meaning differently.

My intention was to help people. Encourage others to enjoy the game. One detail I should have posted on the first page was that my topic was only an opinion and nothing is fact.

Even posting about items that I believe are not worthless was just my opinion.
I know not everyone will agree with me, however we all have different point of views.

It does not matter anymore to me as I tried my best to be helpful but instead rather than see the bright side of my reasons, people took it for the wrong and it's best for me to move on and do something else.

Again those of you who have been nice, understanding, and helpful. It's you who keep the community together. And people have a great time doing things when you help others. Not only did I have a great experience and awesome memories. I am thankful to those who have been kind and supportive, understanding and patient. Will miss you and take care.

[Asymptotic]

So wait, you say I'm spreading misinformation, I back up my claim mathematically, and ... I'm the bad guy for proving you wrong?

Me proving you wrong drove you to quit? Cool.