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  1. #231
    Player Schrute's Avatar
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    This expansion is not failing... Low man groups and pick up groups are failing. I low man'd everything but legion, and VW could be done shout groups and I was happy. I joined a linkshell because the success rate of clearing a delve fracture is much higher when you go and practice with a group, work out strats and execute! cant have great success rates with random shout groups.
    This new expansion and delve brought back strategy to the game and guess what jobs are vital... almost all of them INCLDING RDM and GEO! I personally play rdm and love it and the fact that I have taken the time to make the ToM magic acc staves and took pride in my gear, I am a viable asset to the linkshell's delve runs.

    Dispelling kurma 100% and silencing tojil, paralyzing, slow blind, all debuffs contribute so much! long hastes for my schollars that are stunning, refreshes for my pld and my GEOS!

    Take pride in all ur jobs you play, gear them as best and join a linkshell. Practice against nms and go for the win! teamwork guys!

    Delve is Amazingly fun! I am excited for more delve!
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  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrute View Post
    This expansion is not failing... Low man groups and pick up groups are failing. I low man'd everything but legion, and VW could be done shout groups and I was happy. I joined a linkshell because the success rate of clearing a delve fracture is much higher when you go and practice with a group, work out strats and execute! cant have great success rates with random shout groups.
    This new expansion and delve brought back strategy to the game and guess what jobs are vital... almost all of them INCLDING RDM and GEO! I personally play rdm and love it and the fact that I have taken the time to make the ToM magic acc staves and took pride in my gear, I am a viable asset to the linkshell's delve runs.

    Dispelling kurma 100% and silencing tojil, paralyzing, slow blind, all debuffs contribute so much! long hastes for my schollars that are stunning, refreshes for my pld and my GEOS!

    Take pride in all ur jobs you play, gear them as best and join a linkshell. Practice against nms and go for the win! teamwork guys!

    Delve is Amazingly fun! I am excited for more delve!

    Are you high? What jobs are vital... dood you're either completely and utterly full of shit, or stoned out of your mind.

    All linkshell content blows. This isn't 2005 anymore.
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  3. #233
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    Live and let live.
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  4. #234
    Player Schrute's Avatar
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    linkshell stuff doesn't blow and u are right it isn't 2005 anymore we don't have to wait 4 days for chance at hq king pop, we don't have to be the last person in an ls to get a drop from a boss because we are given ki and can purchase all the drops. I'm not high, lots of jobs are vital, like I said rdm and geo are vital jobs. I see a lot of Q.Q'ing and I am just offering a solution. I know it's lazy of me to put the challenge on us forgive me. If you don't like ls content still lots of other stuff out there to do which has been mentioned in this thread, and GO DO THAT.
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  5. #235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    Are you high? What jobs are vital... dood you're either completely and utterly full of shit, or stoned out of your mind.

    All linkshell content blows. This isn't 2005 anymore.
    Vital jobs in delve:
    MNK SCH GEO WHM RDM BRD COR SAM DRK DRG PLD RNG

    thats more then 50% of the jobs vital in one event, and after the next update prolly more

    and linkshell events dont blow, Delve is one of the most intense and best experiences I have had in a long time in FFXI. 5 NMs + boss in 1 run are very exciting and dont leave much room open for mistakes, so it is all about teamplay and each person knowing their shit.

    People that bitch at delve are:
    1. Lost omg their precious shiney because delve destroyed them (read REM), I can understand Mythic owners bitching, but Relic and empy owners should shut up, like I did shut up when Empys destroyed relics back then and when Dynamis became soloable.
    2. People that dont want to play other jobs more Vital, refuse to lvl other jobs more vital its your own fault.
    3. People that dont know how to gear their jobs properly
    4. People that want the easy way out
    5. People that lack skill.
    6. People that want to play constantly ALL the time solo in an MMO. hint its called MMO!!!
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  6. #236
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    I actually don't fit into any of those categories, and I loathe delve.

    I'm a little annoyed that RME lost their value, but it's due to the fact that I have 20 of them, not Just 1 or 2.

    I loathe delve because I don't want to do an event that REQUIRES 18 people. There are not 18 people "good enough" to win 18 man content, unless they form a linkshell. I do not want to join a linkshell.

    Oh and, those "vital" jobs listed, MNK WHM SCH BRD COR DRK (GEO)

    The rest are "acceptable" the sch can enfeeble as well as the rdm, drg's angon is not vital, its nice to have to speed things up. One could argue that tomahawk would probably be better, as it would change the damage resistances... RNG is "optional". PLD is optional also.

    Significantly less than 50%.
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    Last edited by Karah; 07-03-2013 at 10:28 PM.

  7. #237
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    You are stretching.

    The SCH's are busy doing other things such as Stunning, and there is no substitute for a decked out enfeebling RDM on some of these mobs. Mura SAM is actually a vital part of most strategies now.

    You say DRG's Angon is not vital and PLD is optional. However, by your own admission, if they were substituted by WAR or another job, then that would not decrease the percentage of vital jobs to "[s]ignificantly less than 50%." It would still hover close to 50%, if not more.
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    50% of jobs is wholly unacceptable. These Developers need to increase Delve's accessibility, which I hope they're in the process of doing, and the playerbase need to start seeing beyond BG-approved bandwagon jobs/gear. If things keep up the way it is, August 27 can't come fast enough and the servers can't close soon enough.
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  9. #239
    Player Mahoro's Avatar
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    I would love to see SMN, BST, PUP, DNC, etc. in Delve. They aren't just excluded from Delve these days; they're excluded from most content ;;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoro View Post
    They aren't just excluded from Delve these days; they're excluded from most content (i.e. delve) ;;

    Fixed that for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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