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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Lead instead of waiting to join a run and you won't need to subscribe to that frame of thinking.
    I guess there is never escaping politics is there? Can't I just find competant people to enjoy a game with? instead of this centric thinking that has ocured over the course or vanadiel?


    Edit: and no im not saying that whoever im implying this to are not competant.... have they not progressed in the game further than I?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    With the above setup you shouldn't need too much BRD/COR support for Delve EXP. In actuality if your DD are good enough, you could suffice on a spare Ballad II leaving the COR to pull / engage or the BRD to pull more mobs. At the least you should have enough MP to keep your DD hasted, Dia on pulls and cures or regens going around. Depending on how much sponging is going on, you could either add enspells/adloquilum or save MP for cures.

    All that comes down to split-second decisions you should be making depending on the group. For any other event, you can do the same thing but many of the other events in FFXI are easier than Delve EXP making personal sources of Refresh usually enough to sustain you.

    If an idle/refresh set is overgeared then IDK what to say. It's one of the most crucial sets for maintaining a decent healer and avoiding situations where you're forced to rest and SE has gone out of their way to make it stupid easy for anyone to acquire even the most rudimentary sets on the cheap. It's like a Haste setup for DD, really.

    The number 1 reason SCH or WHMs suck at healing is due to either not having an idle set, not using /SCH or /RDM for valuable SJ abilities, lacking cure potency (!) or using high tier cures for everything rather than picking the right cure for the right situation.

    As for the Nefer Khat? Like I said, its easily acquired on the AH and avoids hours of grinding Konschtat for a pin and matches Heka's or its AH versions but I never said you couldn't go get a Wivre Pin or further, get yourself a Coif from Legion HQ'd for the most optimal Refresh hat.

    Valuable slots? It's called gearswaps. Idle set goes in, Cure set goes out. You can explain that.

    You're currently killing your best slot with a bad Empyrean weapon that has limited use at anything that matters and you're free to do that but lets not call that anything approaching ideal.
    Ok your build is for Idle Refresh, mine is Sublimation and Myrkr. It's 2 different things that do the same thing however my path is for Regen and TP. I always keep these 2 spells up full time. You can't benefit refresh with Sublimation up correct?

    I am telling you I don't need to depend on Cor and BRD refresh support with the path I play because of Myrkr.

    I honestly don't see how anyone needs to switch over to several staffs if you are hired to focus on keeping the party alive?

    To flat out say Myrkr is useless is where we have this conflict.
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    Besides Myrkr, how does Emp keep your MP up? Why can you use Myrkr often enough to matter? Chatoyant is an easy way to not swap staves and have a staff benefitting your spells.
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    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kojo View Post
    Besides Myrkr, how does Emp keep your MP up? Why can you use Myrkr often enough to matter? Chatoyant is an easy way to not swap staves and have a staff benefitting your spells.
    Well that would be a contradiction to our conversation. If we are talking about switching staves and not switching staves. And I already answered this question in the earlier replies anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umichi View Post
    I guess there is never escaping politics is there? Can't I just find competant people to enjoy a game with? instead of this centric thinking that has ocured over the course or vanadiel?


    Edit: and no im not saying that whoever im implying this to are not competant.... have they not progressed in the game further than I?
    Good luck, my utility job suggestion was to get into ab everyday PUG, you can probably get by with any job decently geared, but everyone seems to use Ricky Bobby logic, "if you ain't first, you're last."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umichi View Post
    I guess there is never escaping politics is there? Can't I just find competant people to enjoy a game with? instead of this centric thinking that has ocured over the course or vanadiel?


    Edit: and no im not saying that whoever im implying this to are not competant.... have they not progressed in the game further than I?
    If you're unable to set a simple standard then you're not going to find competent people to play with. Infact, you're going to find the worst people who have no idea what the hell they are doing to play with. Lets put 6 PUPs in a party! THE AUTOMATON CAN HEAL AND HASTE ERBODY!

    Things don't have to reach hyper-elitist behavior where one piece being sub-optimal is grounds for ridicule and being kicked from party but even with the modest standards put forth for shout parties most of them are wonderfully bad. It's like you can feel the bad coming from your PC fans and blowing into your face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umichi View Post
    I guess there is never escaping politics is there? Can't I just find competant people to enjoy a game with? instead of this centric thinking that has ocured over the course or vanadiel?
    Leading is the best way to find those type of people you're looking for, assuming they exist.

    Based on the shouts I often see and I believe the point of the OP it would appear those type of players are few and far between.

    At that point you're left with 3 options:
    1) Keep on waiting for someone with that mindset to step up to the leader role.
    2) Submit to the cookie cutter standards and level a support job you may hate and use that to farm plasm for the job you like until liked job becomes well enough geared to appease the elitists.
    3) Lead your own runs at which point you set forth the standards for the run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    When I cure my SCH goes from Owleyes/Genbu's Shield to Tefnut Wand/Genbu's Shield, and that's just the main and sub slots I actually swap out much more.

    I'm going to assume you already know how to play SCH so you also know the importance of an idle set with refresh/sublimation gear, a cure potency gear set, a fast cast set, an enhancing set, a haste set to help with recast, and a healing skill set. That's just for Light Arts and sets I'd consider a minimum to play SCH well, at least that's the standard I held my SCH which I only revived for NNI.
    Ok are but are you focused on cure only or do you keep Regen V up at all times? Because honestly Regen V saves you MP so you don't have to cure high amounts depending on 50% Cure potency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Ok are but are you focused on cure only or do you keep Regen V up at all times? Because honestly Regen V saves you MP so you don't have to cure high amounts depending on 50% Cure potency.
    Regen V, Haste, keep up with removing debuffs, Bar spells if relevant, Phalanxga, Stoneskinga if it actually is a benefit over a waste of a stratagem. All on top of curing. Also the occasional sleeps to help pullers if applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Leading is the best way to find those type of people you're looking for, assuming they exist.

    Based on the shouts I often see and I believe the point of the OP it would appear those type of players are few and far between.

    At that point you're left with 3 options:
    1) Keep on waiting for someone with that mindset to step up to the leader role.
    2) Submit to the cookie cutter standards and level a support job you may hate and use that to farm plasm for the job you like until liked job becomes well enough geared to appease the elitists.
    3) Lead your own runs at which point you set forth the standards for the run.
    Bah............... I don't like none of them! I suppose I'll be soloing content for a long time coming then well until i meet the rare group or individual who wishes to participate in such things
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