Your actions are making the entire FFXI community suffer

[Daemon]

No, Veterans stopped Plasm farming completely and are killing Delve bosses with their linkshells.

Sorry misread, I agree.

[Asymptotic]

I was responding to the post above me, genius!

This doesn't change a thing about the main reason New players can't get into delve. Veterans are askin Delve weapons as a requirement to experience Delve.

[raps1355]

Cry to the cry cry, cry cry.

[Daemon]

This doesn't change a thing about the main reason New players can't get into delve. Veterans are askin Delve weapons as a requirement to experience Delve.

If the playerbase became rotten to this point, its up to SE to make adjustments to the system to make normal pugs without delve weapons to be able to farm efficiently in there (so the difference between farming with or without delve weapons is minimal) or force a system into those elitists so they have to accept non delve players into their group to be able to keep receiving rewards.


All this bla bla bla doesn't address this problem. This is THE problem right now. You can spend years collecting all that trash you mentioned because in the end your DD wont be accepted to ever experience Delve content unless someone magically put a Delve weapon into their account.

I agree, but to those who are jumping into this topic without reading what we are discussing.

Closely pay attention. Asking you to have a delve weapon for Delve bosses I get.

Asking for Delve weapons only for old content is another.

Saying a specific REM weapon is useless I Get. Saying REM as if every single one is completely useless is another.

And I've seen so many people give up because of others spreading misguided information.

[Daemon]

Cry to the cry cry, cry cry.

Here's a tissue.

[SqEnisfilledwithgeniuses]

To me that's an excuse based on laziness and improper training, lack of practice because for us small groups we use the strategy of switching out members and buffing that its hard when you also have no organization skills and proper communication between your alliance members and team.

The majority of buffs make a huge difference before you even start the fight that many people "still dont get" and can't even do if the jobs are not even there. Wasting valuable space in the alliance on adding extra jobs not necessary while choosing Valor Minuet, March and Minnes through the rotation of 3 bards to benefit 6 song buffs instead thinking this is more valuable than buffs like Perfect Defense, All For One, and other things I've listed before could make a better difference.

And then they expect to win battle after these buffs wore off not even organized to continue switching out members to rebuff the team.

You only need 1 scholar to buff entire alliance, 2 if you want to use Embrava twice.
And you are looking at it as 3 Alliances all together. Main party is DD party which has highest priority on buffs VS other teams.

This eliminates the cause for requiring so many jobs that's really not needed.

You are debating with someone who does this all the time at JP events. So I know it works. Even since the early years we did the same thing back in HNMLS groups.

I do events with JP as well. I'm also not debating anything. You're crying because people are pointing out flaws in your posts, and I'm trolling because tears sustain me.

Pretty simple. I'm neither lazy nor incompetent. I shouted clears for all my NMs. I also logged in the other night and got a whole group of people Tax'et clear.

Anyways, I have things to do, so I'll troll you later. Work up some more tears for my lunch please.

[Asymptotic]

OK, 17-18/20 Mythics are useless depending on how you want to deal with Ryunohige vs. Upikirex. All Empyreans that are not harp or shield are useless. All relics that are not horn, shield, or gun are useless and gun is sort of pushing it because there's not really any extreme motivation to bring RNG to anything.

When people say RME are worthless now, this is what they mean. When people talk about RME, they're specifically talking about DD weapons. Not Yagrush. Not Harp. Why are you blaming other people for your own inability to understand things?

[Tamoa]

If everyone on the server don't think like me, how come all I see are shouts for geos, 3/4 song brds, cors, Delve weapon DDs, whms with Arise and A/O plds?

Every time a new event has been introduced into this game, people have tried out different strategies, figured out which one works the best and shared that information - and others have followed that strategy. It's all about efficiency and success rate. And when you are dealing with people you don't know, meaning you don't know their skill, their ability to follow instructions, their ability to focus etc etc - all you have to go by is their gear. And then - unless you're some sort of masochist - you stick to the jobs and the gear which will (in theory) maximize your chances of success. If you are making the effort of putting together a shout group - for anything - it makes perfect sense that you want the group to succeed and will do what you can to make sure that happens.

[Daemon]

I do events with JP as well. I'm also not debating anything. You're crying because people are pointing out flaws in your posts, and I'm trolling because tears sustain me.

Pretty simple. I'm neither lazy nor incompetent. I shouted clears for all my NMs. I also logged in the other night and got a whole group of people Tax'et clear.

Anyways, I have things to do, so I'll troll you later. Work up some more tears for my lunch please.

Yeah then this doesn't apply to you and you are trolling to point me out for what reason?

[Daemon]

OK, 17-18/20 Mythics are useless depending on how you want to deal with Ryunohige vs. Upikirex. All Empyreans that are not harp or shield are useless. All relics that are not horn, shield, or gun are useless and gun is sort of pushing it because there's not really any extreme motivation to bring RNG to anything.

When people say RME are worthless now, this is what they mean. When people talk about RME, they're specifically talking about DD weapons. Not Yagrush. Not Harp. Why are you blaming other people for your own inability to understand things?

Ok I wont argue if thats your opinion but confidently stating it as a fact as if every single REM is worthless and telling others not to consider making one is why this conversation started. That's why I said this is misleading people especially when SE announced that they will add upgrades for REM in the near future.

Telling new players to not even consider working on one because its worthless and then when REM updates happen, all those people who were told that its pointless to even make one will be left out because of following such advice from others.