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    Player Alpheus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    Maybe in the sense that ARR is the same as 14's initial launch perhaps--but it appears to have changed from it's initial design somewhat. It's not even going to be a PS3 release now, but PS4/XB-One only.
    Its coming to PS3 and PS4 it was mentioned at the tail end of the showing of SE's offerings at the Sony Conference as they shifted towards Ubisoft's offerings.. PC and PS3 8/27/13 and on PS4 in 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpheus View Post
    Its coming to PS3 and PS4 it was mentioned at the tail end of the showing of SE's offerings at the Sony Conference as they shifted towards Ubisoft's offerings.. PC and PS3 8/27/13 and on PS4 in 2014
    We were talking about 15, not 14 ARR. vs13 was originally going to be PS3/360, but it's been revamped to 15 and they dropped PS3/360 and is now for the newer consoles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    How many times have they practically given these add-on's away in compilations the last 2 years? Just how many players don't have the add-ons at this point in time (that is, actively played characters...not things like gardening mules)?

    Beginning to wonder if anyone over there really knows wth they are doing anymore. Take a close look at the new trailer and benchmark tool for FFXIV. Looking more and more like FFXI-2 (a la FFX > FFX-2)....they might as well give us a CoP style fight where our character dies in this realm and is reborn with some special gear/traits or something in FFXIV ARR with our same name and such. Was really hoping to be blown away with ARR....but it's just too damn familiar looking now. At least there is the teaser for FFXV (not a typo, that is actually FF15, based on the vs FFXIII project).
    14 shares as little similarity to XI as possible, aside from being set in FF universe, being an mmo, and mob types. Combat works completely differently. Transportation works very differently. You'll probably never ask for a d2 in that game.

    Commerce works different. Controller functions work different. 14 is not by any stretch a party-grinder where that's all XI was pre-abyssea.

    And I, for one, would welcome an XI v2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BST View Post
    Is that a fishbot? WITH a security token? How ironic
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    Player Alpheus's Avatar
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    Umm, so you're saying.... just at a glance.... that they're a fishbot because they only have RotZ?

    EDIT: Right what I meant to post was to RAIST:

    I must have missed the part where you specified only XV (no matter though). It wouldn't be the first time SE would re brand a entry into the series though, I mean it would be pretty reasonable to assume that every jump to a new console the market went through saw ideas and work shifted to the newer platform. I would say given the proliferation of information and the Internet age we live in we just saw that kind of awkwardness on display for the first time. Doesn't make it more unsettling but just how I view it as I take a step back from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    14 shares as little similarity to XI as possible, aside from being set in FF universe, being an mmo, and mob types. Combat works completely differently. Transportation works very differently. You'll probably never ask for a d2 in that game.

    Commerce works different. Controller functions work different. 14 is not by any stretch a party-grinder where that's all XI was pre-abyssea.

    And I, for one, would welcome an XI v2.
    True....if you actually play the game, you will pick up on all those changes (I was in the original Beta). But, as I was saying...it looks much more similar to FFXI now than it ever did before. Watch the trailers and the new benchmark tool some more. Try to view it from the perspective of someone not familiar with 14, who has only played XI and aren't already aware of the different mechanics in 14 and will be comparing it directly to their experience with XI. There are a lot of things that look more or less like XI revamped into HD--it wasn't like that in the original trailers/benchmark. Carbuncle is one such example...at least the other avatars we've seen got radically revamped models (crabs are another that look like they just got resampled into HD)...these are the more obvious examples, many more can be found if one looks closely.

    It was considerably more obvious with the previous media releases that 14 was a whole new animal, which was a larger part of it's draw. With these new content releases, it appeared more like SE is trying to draw more people in by presenting it more as a reborn FFXI realm in HD, and less of a focus on it being a rebirth of the vastly different FFXIV. Kind of goes against all they proclaimed to be shooting for originally--a new game instead of a rewrite of an older one. Thus my reference to the X > X-2 mess. Looked very familiar on the surface, but was vastly different once you started playing. Disappointed a lot of people that tried the sequel hoping for more of what they liked in FFX, and in large part why it got so much criticism. Hopefully we don't get the same backlash with 14 ARR from people less familiar with the newer project.
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    Last edited by RAIST; 06-19-2013 at 08:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edyth View Post
    When it says Abyssea for free, does that mean no traverser stones needed for a while and we're getting 9 new atma and the ability to infuse a fourth atma?

    Or does that mean, "Those of you who don't have the add-ons get temporary free access and get rewarded for not buying the add-ons yet?"
    The whole thing is nothing but an insult.. all it means is that people who dont own abyssea will be able to access the content (and have atmas/cruor etc) handed to them on a silver platter for a month
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayoyama View Post
    The whole thing is nothing but an insult...
    Really how so? I think they should just change it to forever, because with Abyssea's lack of interest in Atma getting and such now people who are just starting out need the free start to help out. Besides that, the free entrance to Abyssea is a stupid idea, the cheapest version of the game includes Abyssea in it, who doesn't have it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Sure why not. We're already godmode in there, so giving us a 4th lunar isn't going to break all that much stuff.
    If it's broken, how can you break even more? Ah i know you did everything you needed there but still cares about others progression to not reach you in delve OP gear. gear that is actually broken in every area of the game and not just Abyssea.

    Go to FF14 please.
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    Last edited by Spectreman; 06-19-2013 at 12:34 PM.

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