We need new Jug pets for seekers.

[Deifact]

I'm guessing bst pets are much easier to add than smn pets, since bst pets already exist with abilities already created.

[Siviard]

very rich considering that thus board is beastmasters whining about needing new pets (again) and they're getting it (again).

Very funny. I could probably go over to the SMN forum on this site as well as FFXIAH and Allakhazam, and I'm willing to bet there's a plethora of threads and posts of "WHY U NO GIVE SMN M0AR AVATARZ SE?!?!?" and the like. I have seen so many posts made by the Development Team and Community Representatives informing us of updates they plan to implement, ONLY TO HAVE SUMMONERS WHINE ABOUT NOT HAVING NEW AVATARS IN RESPONSE! You say BSTs whine? Take a look in the mirror first before you accuse BSTs of whining. Below is a shining example, from this very thread even! I believe the quote below should be familiar to you....

I know its off topic but.... i love how the beastmaster community can ask for new pets and BAM you get them so your never too underpowered but when it comes to summoner SE can't even lift a finger to help them.

[darkhorror]

The one that costs plasm needs to have good debuff tp moves, like a potent def down, or evasion down, along with high acc for the moves landing. Or some sort of AOE attack, or acc buff move. Something so that BST may be wanted to do events.

[Malthar]

That would be too OP. My stats are nuts!

Bring it on, Camate! Remember, you can still be stunned!

ps: PS, I have to watch my wording in this post. The last time I suggested a post battling NPC's it was deleted. NPC's!
They said I was talking badly about the staff...
Yeah...
Is it ok if I challenge you to a duel, Camate?

[Secondplanet]

Very funny. I could probably go over to the SMN forum on this site as well as FFXIAH and Allakhazam, and I'm willing to bet there's a plethora of threads and posts of "WHY U NO GIVE SMN M0AR AVATARZ SE?!?!?" and the like. I have seen so many posts made by the Development Team and Community Representatives informing us of updates they plan to implement, ONLY TO HAVE SUMMONERS WHINE ABOUT NOT HAVING NEW AVATARS IN RESPONSE! You say BSTs whine? Take a look in the mirror first before you accuse BSTs of whining. Below is a shining example, from this very thread even! I believe the quote below should be familiar to you....

Yes but has beast had a carrot dangled infront of their faces for over 2 years now? The last real avatar we got was diablos and since then nothing, while how many new jugs had been released for bst? I have every right along with all other summoners to complain considering that when beasts say they need new pets for zones they get them while summoners are stuck with lvl 75 attacks on our avatars and damage that is subpar compared to todays standards. I would be more then happy to stop complaining if SE actually look into summoner and fixed out lack of almost everything like attack and defence.

[Zagen]

Yes but has beast had a carrot dangled infront of their faces for over 2 years now? The last real avatar we got was diablos and since then nothing, while how many new jugs had been released for bst? I have every right along with all other summoners to complain considering that when beasts say they need new pets for zones they get them while summoners are stuck with lvl 75 attacks on our avatars and damage that is subpar compared to todays standards. I would be more then happy to stop complaining if SE actually look into summoner and fixed out lack of almost everything like attack and defence.

You seem to be completely missing the point... This is a Beastmaster thread within the Beastmaster sub forum. If you want to complain about Summoner do it in a Summoner thread within the Summoner sub forum.

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As to new jugs I just hope they're on par with what an Alternator Automaton has become at the very least the plasm jug should be that strong.

[Siviard]

Yes but has beast had a carrot dangled infront of their faces for over 2 years now? The last real avatar we got was diablos and since then nothing, while how many new jugs had been released for bst? I have every right along with all other summoners to complain considering that when beasts say they need new pets for zones they get them while summoners are stuck with lvl 75 attacks on our avatars and damage that is subpar compared to todays standards. I would be more then happy to stop complaining if SE actually look into summoner and fixed out lack of almost everything like attack and defence.

Yes. BST has had a carrot dangled in front of them as well. See the promise of "Pet: Treasure Hunter" gear for more information.

Now go back to the Summoner forum and whine there, please.

[Secondplanet]

Yes. BST has had a carrot dangled in front of them as well. See the promise of "Pet: Treasure Hunter" gear for more information.

Now go back to the Summoner forum and whine there, please.

And summoners never knew love and lost? Yes you lost your TH on some pets and SE did say the option for pet TH gear was an option but summoner had the same thing with Perfect Defense with the skill capping at 60seconds with 600 summoning magic which they also said gear might be an option to allow us to reach it while with all the gear in the game can bring you just below the 520 mark.

I've never seen bst as a weak job and have seen it solo its great share of mobs in the game and i respect that but really SE needs to focus on some other jobs first before they just keep handing out more jug pets, Like how about an ability that puts the master in a weaken state and transfers all lost stats to your pet to superstrength them? There is more then one way to fix a job then to just throw out more jugs and make you forget about older jugs, even take the level cap of the lower level ones so they can be a option.

[Anjou]

I actually have to agree with SecondPlanet on this one, Summoner hasn't really seen much in terms of progress, whereas BST has had tons of things added to it. But then again SE has plenty to choose from in terms of avatars, such as Cait Sith, Atomos, Bahamut (Why hasn't he been thought of yet, he's like the CLASSIC), and then their other summons throughout FF history. It isn't to say they don't have the creativity to make new ones, quite the opposite they have a lot to pick from.

Could always make it where Odin/Alex aren't 1hr summons, maybe that'd help and they couldn't use their abilities unless the SMN used astral flow.

[Delvish]

I actually have to agree with SecondPlanet on this one, Summoner hasn't really seen much in terms of progress, whereas BST has had tons of things added to it. But then again SE has plenty to choose from in terms of avatars, such as Cait Sith, Atomos, Bahamut (Why hasn't he been thought of yet, he's like the CLASSIC), and then their other summons throughout FF history. It isn't to say they don't have the creativity to make new ones, quite the opposite they have a lot to pick from.

Could always make it where Odin/Alex aren't 1hr summons, maybe that'd help and they couldn't use their abilities unless the SMN used astral flow.

Right and wrong. Right idea, wrong place