Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Seha]

Game's like this now and 90% of the playerbase like it this way. I don't like leeching but I've accepted how things are, do it too. A good hard new endgame is what we need now imho, where we can again appreciate the aspects of all jobs instead of brainlessly throwing 18 bodies at weak mobs(the thing I hate the most about abyssea actually <.<). I see your point, seeing noobs bragging about their 20 lv 90 jobs and sucking at all 20 of them sure is annoying, but I'm afraid that killing aby-leech wouldn't solve the problem. Too late at least, should have been implemented this way from the start, but it wasn't and turning back now would be silly.

Just my personal opinion.

[tazkwondo]

Honestly, 30 is probably too low for Abyssea. I know it sucks to level the old way, but we now have a lot of fake 90's that have no clue what their job entails. People missing like 20 spells. No real gear or clue what their job abilities do. Some of you may like interacting and partying with the fake 90's but I do not.

I think the minimum level should be raised to at least 50. Maybe even 60. You can make it to 90 now without even getting the aht urghan expansion. People may never visit those levels. I don't speak from nostalgia, I just think the servers are just going to be overpopulated with players that are more obsessed with getting to 90 or 99 than learning their job.

[Greatguardian]

Honestly, 30 is probably too low for Abyssea. I know it sucks to level the old way, but we now have a lot of fake 90's that have no clue what their job entails. People missing like 20 spells. No real gear or clue what their job abilities do. Some of you may like interacting and partying with the fake 90's but I do not.

I think the minimum level should be raised to at least 50. Maybe even 60. You can make it to 90 now without even getting the aht urghan expansion. People may never visit those levels. I don't speak from nostalgia, I just think the servers are just going to be overpopulated with players that are more obsessed with getting to 90 or 99 than learning their job.

They have been for the past 8 years. The only difference is we include things like gear swapping and recognizing the value of Haste as key components in knowing one's job. People with capped skills, who can pull Dynamis and complete missions, but do so in one set of gear and who insist STR is better than Haste for a TP set? They do not know their jobs.

[Nacht]

I think the minimum level should be raised to at least 50. Maybe even 60. You can make it to 90 now without even getting the aht urghan expansion. People may never visit those levels. I don't speak from nostalgia, I just think the servers are just going to be overpopulated with players that are more obsessed with getting to 90 or 99 than learning their job.

It should be able to balance itself out. If people keep kicking gimps out, then the gimps will realize they're doing something wrong and fix it. Or they won't, but either way, they don't have to be -your- problem if you just kick them.

[Greatguardian]

It should be able to balance itself out. If people keep kicking gimps out, then the gimps will realize they're doing something wrong and fix it. Or they won't, but either way, they don't have to be -your- problem if you just kick them.

I'd love to think that... instead, whenever I kick people out of my groups for not changing gear or wearing Haste, they yell at me and make threads on FFXIAH and Allakhazam to have dozens of other gimps yell about me too

[Icestein]

I'd love to think that... instead, whenever I kick people out of my groups for not changing gear or wearing Haste, they yell at me and make threads on FFXIAH and Allakhazam to have dozens of other gimps yell about me too

I have to agree. When I was leading a party I got quite a bit of stick for kicking a warrior/paladin who came in full adaman armor, a sword and shield. Shortly after I kicked him he had found another party.

[Nacht]

I have to agree. When I was leading a party I got quite a bit of stick for kicking a warrior/paladin who came in full adaman armor, a sword and shield. Shortly after I kicked him he had found another party.

It's gotta be a collective effort...
Who am I kidding, you're right, it was a bit far fetched.

[RaenRyong]

where we can again appreciate the aspects of all jobs instead of brainlessly throwing 18 bodies at weak mobs(the thing I hate the most about abyssea actually <.<).

You are perfectly describing old endgame, where events were done with members far in excess of the minimum or even the optimum.

Anyone throwing 18 members at any Abyssean mob needs to learn how to split groups for greatest efficiency.

[Sesono]

Whenever you kick a n00b: REMEMBER! You once were one of them ...
You always have the option (opportunity) to give them advice ~ its on them to decide if they take it or not.

btw. i would love to see the minimum lvl allowed in Abyssea would be 75.

[Seha]

Whenever you kick a n00b: REMEMBER! You once were one of them ...
You always have the option (opportunity) to give them advice ~ its on them to decide if they take it or not.

Problem is when you kindly try to give advices and they insult you for doing so.