unlocking WSs

[Demon6324236]

Uriel Blade.

I forgot where in this thread it was brought up by anyone except you, because its not on topic. This entire thread was about the best WS for Excalibur after the adjustment and CDC is unlocked. You insist on continuing on about a WS not even relevant to this because SE has never unlocked or stated they would unlock any Campaign WSs so far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong. If I'm not wrong, then your posts hold no relevance to this topic besides complaining that a WS we can not utilize well is actually going to end up being our best. Incase you forgot, they did say we would be able to use CDC with all weapons via the coin weapons, if so, base your posts of this fact and not simply saying we "circle jerked over how RDM can remain unimpressive with subpar WSs on Sword" when all you are talking about is the only WS which beats this one and at the same time has never been said by SE that we could unlock it with other weapons.

[ManaKing]

I forgot where in this thread it was brought up by anyone except you, because its not on topic. This entire thread was about the best WS for Excalibur after the adjustment and CDC is unlocked. You insist on continuing on about a WS not even relevant to this because SE has never unlocked or stated they would unlock any Campaign WSs so far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong. If I'm not wrong, then your posts hold no relevance to this topic besides complaining that a WS we can not utilize well is actually going to end up being our best. Incase you forgot, they did say we would be able to use CDC with all weapons via the coin weapons, if so, base your posts of this fact and not simply saying we "circle jerked over how RDM can remain unimpressive with subpar WSs on Sword" when all you are talking about is the only WS which beats this one and at the same time has never been said by SE that we could unlock it with other weapons.

You're wrong because you're still focusing on how RDM can be subpar. The topic doesn't belong in the RDM forums unless it was titled, "how can RDM continue to not thrive in the current incarnation of the game by focusing on it weaknesses". And then it should have been locked because it was a troll.

Channeling our mage gear into high powered WSs makes sense. Not getting over the fact that we aren't BLU or RUN or a light DD is getting pretty old. The idea that a RDM can contribute with physical WSs without the WSs themselves being broken ala CDC in Aby, is getting pretty old. The more you keep these stupid discussions up, the more wrong and irrelevant you make RDM forums become and the stupider you make RDMs look in general.

RDM is a mage, so it should have a mage WS. Especially if we are going to be on nothing but mage gear. Instead of prattling on about being on light DD gear (which you won't get), you could be asking for something that would easily compliment the direction the game is going, in general, and specifically where all of RDMs gear has gone for the last 3+ years.

If you're going to insist on taking RDM melee seriously, you could at least sound like a RDM instead of a light DD.

[Demon6324236]

You're wrong because you're still focusing on how RDM can be subpar. The topic doesn't belong in the RDM forums unless it was titled, "how can RDM continue to not thrive in the current incarnation of the game by focusing on it weaknesses". And then it should have been locked because it was a troll.

Read the OP, tell me when he brought up any WS besides CDC and KoR, be my guest.

so with this talk of unlocking WoE weaponskills and raising R/E/Ms, what do you guys think of using Chant du Cygne on Excalibur? or would you just stick with KoR?

So this topic has what to do with me, focusing on 'how RDM can be subpar' and why this does not belong in the RDM forums?

If you're going to insist on taking RDM melee seriously, you could at least sound like a RDM instead of a light DD.

When my Fast Cast makes my TP go up faster let me know, till that day, the mage and melee parts of the job are separated, and without gear to enhance the melee side we can have the best WS ever and our white damage will still suck enough to make us to weak still. You make it sound like our mage stats effect us, or if they let us use this WS it would change our melee amazingly, no, it would make us stronger and let us use some more mage stats in our gear for our melee, yes, but it would only do it for WS. TPing would still suck, our biggest more glaring flaw is our TP above everything else, and that's the one thing that you never offer a solution for, only light DD gear would be a solution because mage gear at most gets 1 melee worthy piece every set which is pathetic for RDM.

[Muse]

*tosses his Chapeau into the mix*

Channeling our mage gear into high powered WSs makes sense. Not getting over the fact that we aren't BLU or RUN or a light DD is getting pretty old. The idea that a RDM can contribute with physical WSs without the WSs themselves being broken ala CDC in Aby, is getting pretty old.

RDM is a Hybrid, and not strictly a mage. The only reason it went pure mage is because of SE removing the old system for the armor and slapping us on mage onry. Maybe you missed that? Maybe not. Also remember that those other jobs you listed are ALSO on most mage and light DD gear.

RDM's can contribute with Physical WS's and still do. Hell I do it all the time with my current LS. It always gives me a good laugh when I bust out some decent (not great) numbers with KoR. I've actually outparsed DD's before too.

RDM is a mage, so it should have a mage WS. Especially if we are going to be on nothing but mage gear.

There is a WS that uses STR and MND and... oh MAB... RDM isn't on it though unless you use certain SJ's to unlock it. It's called Sanguine Blade. There was a thread about it a while back as RDM's were asking for some of the WS's to be unlocked to them. Don't recall if the DEV's replied to it or not.

Uriel Blade

Won't happen... Ochain PLD's are the reason this won't happen along with the other campagin sword WS. Just because it would end up with them doing AoE Flash/Stun spamming mobs.




Back onto the topic of Excalibur using CDC...


I'm intrigued by this idea and think it would indeed boost Excalibur RDM's some. Whether or not it would increase our actual DPS would be hard to tell until the actual WS was released onto other weapons, along with the true stats of the new 99 REM's.

The only reason I say it would be hard to tell is because we just don't know, even with the DPS calcs, EXACTLY the WS will work 100% of the time on a different weapon. With CDC on Excal we would lose the DEX+ from Almace, yet gain ATT+ and a permanent x2.5 damage boost. Yes, I know the weapon does not proc all the time etc. Just saying that we wouldn't be restricted to keeping aftermath up if we needed to use another ws for something.