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    Player Edyth's Avatar
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    Adjustments needed to nearly / literally unbeatable quests

    The following quests are nearly unbeatable due to the following reasons: massive difficulty level in exchange for minimal reward; impossible to accept one of the following quests if the others are active; impossible to help others unless the same specific version of the quest is active for all participants; impossible to cancel any of the following quests in order to help others; these quests are still level-capped despite the nearly worthless rewards:
    • Eco-Warrior (Bastok)
    • Eco-Warrior (San d'Oria)
    • Eco-Warrior (Windurst)

    The following quest is truly the mark of a hardcore FFXI player for no logical reason at all and for nearly no reward:
    • All By Myself: it is not necessary for this to be the most hardcore, incredibly difficult quest in the game aside from "Duties, Tasks, and Deeds." Provenance Watcher, Carbuncle Prime, and the Ark Angels have never had anything on Ken. Due to the level limit, MP issues and death are guaranteed threats to players. Additionally, Ken's behavior is foolish and erratic, and his sight range is out-of-this-world. This quest can be remedied by removing the level cap, preventing a high-level player from receiving aggro or running out of MP.

    The following quests are nearly unbeatable due to Chocobo fatigue and the length of the quests; this may be remedied by substantially reducing the rate of fatigue:
    • Desert Rain II (Attohwa)
    • Ward Warden II (Attohwa)
    *I personally would very surprised if more than 10 players across all servers have managed to complete both of these chocobo quests in Abyssea - Attohwa.


    The following quest is literally unbeatable once the player has reached a certain point in the game:
    • The Gustaberg Tour: Once the player has reached level 5 with all 22 jobs, this quest is impossible to complete. This issue could be remedied by raising the required level for the quest to level 10 so that level sync can be used, preventing this from being the only quest in FFXI that is literally and absolutely unbeatable after certain game progress.


    Edit: I'm not just *****ing and whining: I've completed all of these quests except the chocobo ones in Attohwa. These quests are possibly the most unbalanced things in the game, and it's not the fun type of "imbalance." It's real imbalance.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    You can cancel the Eco-warrior quests though by telling the npc in town to go shove it. I think the next set of quests that could be on this list are the teamwork ones. It's was hard to complete years ago, but now it's even harder because most people in sandy are afk. Good luck finding 5 people from the 2 other cities in Sandy or of the same race as you. The job one is easy but you have to actually get to that one.

    Another one might be the subligar quest with a certain bastokian girl. Some of the armor she asks for can be hard to find or find the items to have someone synth them. Also her Abyssea quest if your sick enough to repeat it could be just as bad.
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    Player Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Good luck even UNLOCKING some of the Campaign Ops (Counting them since it does track which ones you complete). As far as I know, I'm the only person to have even attempted "By Light of Fire".
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    He once sold his soul to Promathia for a rare drop. He later won it back in a drinking contest, before beating up the twilight god for good measure.
    He's won dance-off trophies from the Republic of Bastok, the Duchy of Jeuno, and the Yagudo Theomilitary.
    He's won entire arguments with a single leer.
    He is the most interesting galka in the world.

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    Player Sapphire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    You can cancel the Eco-warrior quests though by telling the npc in town to go shove it.
    Unless something got changed in an update w/o a note - I've never been able to cancel Eco-Warrior. And have asked for that on this forum at least once.
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    Don't wish. Don't start.

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    As far as all by myself goes, it's pretty easy if you have someone not on the quest claiming every mob in his path
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    Player Edyth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadotter View Post
    As far as all by myself goes, it's pretty easy if you have someone not on the quest claiming every mob in his path
    I've tried that, but there are so many dozens of monsters that can get in his way that deaggro, despawn, and respawn is guaranteed if the holder attempts to claim in advance.

    Also, Ken himself aggroes monsters (they don't just aggro him), meaning the holder must claim EVERYTHING in the paths Ken walks, not just aggressive monsters.

    To try to effectively preempt ALL his actions during the course of the quest is too difficult because if his path is unimpeded, he's fast. Having a higher level player help is certainly a boon, but Ken always finds a way to pull a monster out of his *** and get beaten to within an inch of his life.

    Still, I did beat this quest, and the time that I FINALLY did it was one of the times that I played it straight: no high-level help. Just practice, memorization, and MP recovery items.
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    I had accidentally gotten the windy one and re-talked to the npc in waters and was able to get into a cancel option
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    I agree SE needs to update these quest. The Gustaberg Tour quest, they could keep it at is it, just add some kind of item or a ??? you click on in the zone that will reduce the players lvl to the min needed to complete the quest.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    So I just remembered another quest most people can't complete any more due to no one does the event(s) that drop items for the quest and that would be the mannequin quest. Since no one at least on shiva does garrison any more which drops parts of one's mannequin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    So I just remembered another quest most people can't complete any more due to no one does the event(s) that drop items for the quest and that would be the mannequin quest. Since no one at least on shiva does garrison any more which drops parts of one's mannequin.
    Actually the garrison in Vollbow (Cape Teriggan) is soloable for mannequin parts since there is no level cap there.
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