New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Theytak]

You guys... Seriously... I've missed your psychotic ravings. <3

[Elexia]

A lot of people have stopped upgrading old weapons, currency, plates, alex, ect have pretty much slowed and you don't see many voidwatch shouts now.

Let's be real, you barely seen shit getting done on Phoenix prior to this outside of certain linkshells lol. The only time it was active was when Titan merged because it was the Titans who actually shouted for stuff.

[Jackstin]

If you have your ultimate relic/empy/mythic, and you don't want to play the new content to get a better weapon, then leave.

This isn't supposed to be a snarky comment. You've reached your ultimate goal, and you don't consider the new content to be an advancement. You're done!

I left today, and I don't feel resentful. This game has given me years of fun, and now I'm ready to move on to something else. Sounds like that's true for a number of you.

[MarkovChain]

Because we all are Members of the same Online game, paying a monthly subscription. Why should those Members that play longer and invest more time out of their lives... get the better rewards is what we should be asking, last I checked we are all using Green Money. No matter which way we look at things, most if not all is a time-sink.

FINAL FANTASY XI is not the same game that it used to be anymore. Like it or not, but that is our answer! Hehe~

With every VU you see gimps claiming this, with every expansion you see gimps cry after a while. This happened for abyssea, remember ? Even BG gimps couldn't 90 their empy and still can't 99 their RME these days let alone afterglow them. For game balance (aka keeping people playing) you need to add difficulty at one point (which effectively means impossibility in your case). You are seeing the point weapons as the omfgdrop from the expansion when the real drop is the one from the endbosses. Guess who will get the "drops" in the end ?

I'm just hoping for new relics weapons which those weapons are not ( unless they are a 1% droprate which sounds retarded seeing what they've done so far).

I still don't understand what they had in mind with skirmish. The idea sounded cool but now it's shit. Here is some advice SE : allow to enter skirmish with imprimaturs. As you may have noticed nobody is doing imprimatures anymore because you completely destroyed the point of doing them (the main point was getting the CS for wildkeeper reives (for wpns) which you only need if you care about entering a fracture as leader). Oh but wait the weapons are now garbage. SE just trashed content released 3 weeks ago. I wonder what we will get in 3 weeks...

[svengalis]

i know it can take more time to get a E/M/R but if you do do them did you not get what you wanted from doing the quest/missions etc? i would say 90% of the gear in this game has become obsolete over the years with each new expansion so i expected nothing less when they announced a new one.

i can kinda understand why people are mad about this but at the same time what did you expect from a new expansion if not better gear and weapons that were easier to obtain? i would have thought most would have liked this after the ridiculous requirements to max out E/M/R.

[Jackstin]

i know it can take more time to get a E/M/R but if you do do them did you not get what you wanted from doing the quest/missions etc? i would say 90% of the gear in this game has become obsolete over the years with each new expansion so i expected nothing less when they announced a new one.

i can kinda understand why people are mad about this but at the same time what did you expect from a new expansion if not better gear and weapons that were easier to obtain? i would have thought most would have liked this after the ridiculous requirements to max out E/M/R.

R/E/Ms weren't just a piece of gear with ridiculous requirements. They're the ultimate weapons with perfectly reasonable requirements, but expected to be achieved over a long period of time.

The requirements for Relics and Empyreans (okay mythics are outrageous) look daunting, but they can be got in a matter of a few months. Sure that's a long time, but when you're at the end of the game and you've finished everything, that's the end goal.

So they have every right to be pissed off, assuming this will never get fixed. Except of course it will get fixed, so I don't know what the issue is.

[zataz]

It's still just a video game. Name another MMORPG that keeps ONE SET OF WEAPON OR ARMOR as the top and must need to do any content. I'm very curious because most MMOs, especially in 2013, has an actual gear progression.

You say it's not a smart decision, it's understandable being butthurt and crying if you completed a relic and mythic in 2007 for example, but for fucks sake, it takes only a month-2 months tops to complete a relic these days and mere days to complete an empyrean if you're dedicated.

It only takes awhile to complete a Mythic because of, as I stated, artificial difficulty. These new weapons actually has an entry barrier that'll make them actually something to work for (sounds familiar?)

The sad part about all of this bitching, the ones bitching are out there working towards getting these weapons. :\ The other funny thing about this, it was likely the same people who bitched when Abyssea released..oh, you don't remember the years and years we spent grinding content like Sky, Sea, Ground Kings and Einherjar only for Abyssea and VW to come out and negate all that work and everyone moved on their with lives just fine?

You say you can't use other MMORPGs as an example, but why is it that everyone is content in said other MMOs with gear progression..? Probably because almost every other MMO is designed this way and not keep things relevant for years on end rather than making something better to work for. Serious question Afania, did you join post Abyssea? Or did you quit after Abyssea released? I'm going to guess you joined post Abyssea.

<,< pso i dont think omega gene flow was ever replaced or black ring or even crazy tunes

[Fynlar]

So they have every right to be pissed off, assuming this will never get fixed. Except of course it will get fixed, so I don't know what the issue is.

Don't count your chocobos before they hatch, pal.

[Raksha]

REM + ghastly stone+2 = ~+50 base damage.

that + Airlixir+2 = ~+50 more base damage.

BAM! fixes everything. keeps dynamis/salvage/voidwatch relevant. makes Skirmish relevant again, and also gives REM holders another reason to do Delve.

So obvious I dont know how they didnt see it to begin with.

[Karbuncle]

To make skirmish relevant again all they'd really have to do is significantly reduce the entry requirements. If they did that, the average player could probably burn through Skirmish so long as they're smart and own at least Emp+2/Reive gear and use macros.

I'd bother doing Skirmish for a few of the weapons as hold-overs if it wasn't so stupid easy to do Delve and so stupid hard to enter Skirmish.