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  1. #381
    Player Duelle's Avatar
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    I find it baffling that some people are so attached to weapons that are designed as long term projects, and while SE has made attempts to keep said weapons relevant, there will come a time where they will have to be phased out for better equipment. That's how progression works, and regardless of the millions of gil or hours spent putting it together it's for the good of the game to reset the playing field and allow people to aim for something new.

    That being said, Matsui's proposed idea leaves a couple of questions. Firstly, whether the first step into Adoulin content will entirely be balanced around 99RMEC weapons.

    Secondly, if in accordance to these weapons no longer being the best, will acquisition of the components see improvements and/or the amount of items/kills required to upgrade RMEC weapons be adjusted.

    In some cases the WS are nothing special, while in others said WS have been on/off switches for viability (PLD with Atonement, DRG with Drakesbane, RDM with Chant du Signe), so being able to unlock them for general use would be a wash, IMO.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 05-06-2013 at 05:24 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line.

  2. #382
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    i don't understand the people who say that rem gotta be phased out. what has to be fased out? the name? wanna call it differently? go ahead if makes you happier.
    what we want, or better, i want since i don't wanna speak for the others, is for a new weapon, call it r, e, m or with any other letter you like to use, that requires one of the old weapons to be built, with new or improved stats based on the base one. want to have the best weapon? you'll have to go through the phases required to build one. want it the easy way? get those offered by delve.
    as i already said in previous posts, the system has been already been built. the new equip requires plasma to rank up. the same system could be used to rank up the rem.
    and a "we don't have enough man power" when, in the last years, the same amount of players (or more since the expansion came out) are still paying the same monthly fee that has been set 10 years ago, is not acceptable.
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    Last edited by Zohno; 05-06-2013 at 05:51 AM.

  3. #383
    Player Zumi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohno View Post
    i don't understand the people who say that rem gotta be phased out. what has to be fased out? the name? wanna call it differently? go ahead if makes you happier.
    what we want, or better, i want since i don't wanna speak for the others, is for a new weapon, call it r, e, m or with any other letter you like to use, that requires one of the old weapons to be built, with new or improved stats based on the base one. want to have the best weapon? you'll have to go through the phases required to build one. want it the easy way? get those offered by delve.
    as i already said in previous posts, the system has been already been built. the new equip requires plasma to rank up. the same system could be used to rank up the rem.
    and a "we don't have enough man power" when, in the last years, the same amount of players (or more since the expansion came out) are still paying the same monthly fee that has been set 10 years ago, is not acceptable.
    Most of the dev team went to work on 14. I know people joke about it but its true. SE wants to save the reputation most popular brand Final Fantasy and FFXIV did damage to their brand and they want to fix that.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 05-06-2013 at 06:42 AM.

  4. #384
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    Oh... Oh god, I died laughing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=JRAlBFqCSrA

    Just, Give it a watch, idc who you are its funny.
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  5. #385
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    Not stepping into the current shit storm, but I must say...

    Karbuncle, that is pretty damn funny xD
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    = He who hesitates is lost = (dont remember who's quote this is but I like it)

  6. #386
    Player Areayea's Avatar
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    agreed with Yandaime
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malphius View Post
    It's not the players. R/E/M have a very clear advantage and are needed for the hardest content. I'm not blaming the weapon or the players. It's just the way the game has evolved. After Abyssea and Neo Dynamis many had a legendary weapon and so they adjusted the content from there accordingly.
    I don't see what is wrong with having REM for the hardest contents. You're supposed to have skilled and well equipped players to beat those contents, hence why you'd need the REM.
    Of course, Qilin shouldn't be "REM only" since it's really not hard.

    The fact is that today they give us weapons that destroy REM and render them completely useless. But those weapons should be used to beat the fracture delve's bosses which drop the strongest weapons. Some of those strongest weapons haven't been released yet : scythe and great sword are still missing.
    The new content is enjoyable.
    However, in the end I want legendary weapons to stay legendaries even if I'm not in a rush for this to happen since we still have new things to discover.
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  8. #388
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    They could end all this by just raising the base damage on the R/M/E the rest of the weapon will take care of itself they should be the best weapons when you 99 them because it takes the most work.

    In less then 3 days ppl who dont even have R/M/E have the weapons which are on par or better in some cases because they joined /sh groups who just pull the mob to a waypoint. have everyone set hp to Western Adoulin mog house, have 2 plds hold mob with whm support and have blms nuke it to death..... when they need to reset JA or need mp or die even just hp go into mog change subs and there you go waypoint right back to fight. Going way past the rage timer of 15 mins SE set on the mob i couldn't believe how easy the fight was it just took 2hrs is all.

    Now all the ppl who did this easy fight just /sh farming runs and get there new weapon takes less then a week and your better then most 99 R/M/E which took so much time work and gil, its the most frustrating thing they ever done, i feel its ok to make weapons better then R/M/E but only if its also a legendary weapon.... not a weapon that anyone who can join a /sh can get you don't even need to beat a Naakual to join the /sh just the popper has to have beat one.

    I think they should make a quest ONLY for 99 R/M/E to raise the base damage to equal or close to the new highest base damage weapons or just add them to the new delve augment system and let us upgrade them that way or something.

    Also i think unlocking the ws for other weapons IF YOU HAVE A 99 R/E since mythic ws are already like that would be a great addition but first things first, fix the R/M/E 99s because the ppl who have them are the ppl who stay with the game or if they do leave they come right back and stay for long periods of time and have the drive to play and beat any challenge you put in there face who you should always reward for there loyalty to this game.
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    Smush is a Beast!

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  9. #389
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    Just got Rigor Baghnakhs, from joining a bunch of shout groups. Yea this thing blows the crap out of Verethragna. It was kinda fun getting a new weapon doing crazy damage. Was seeing like 850 crits ect on normal attacks.

    Now that I replaced one of my empyreans, its actually kind of fun doing a ton more damage lol

    Yea it only takes like 3 days of joining shout groups to get one of these, or 6 farm groups if they make 5k each which seems about average. Takes much less time to get these weapons then relics or empyreans ever did.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 05-06-2013 at 07:09 PM.

  10. #390
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    If SE never made changes to Dyna and it was still a LS event how many people would own a Relic or more than one? Same with Salvage and Einherjar how many people own a Mythic? I would have to say not very many, Point is be thankful you even own one let alone a 99. If SE makes it so we can have our REMC WS's used by another weapon then take it you'll live w/o that Aftermath. Think of it this way if you own a 99 REMC and you have the WS useable on other weapons, Then +1 to you cause you have something other people wont have or will have a very hard time to get. So stop being Butt Hurt its a game move on and face the fact that SE may not make REM top dog anymore oh wait that already happened. If anything go buy all the coins you can and make your 99 Gimperyean and get the WS.
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