Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and WoE Weapons

[Cahlum]

This idea is the most stupid, idiotic half brained scheme I could have ever imagined. "I know guys, lets make it so all their hard work on a 99 REM goes to waste by turning them into KIs and relegating them to mannequin usage for eternity." No, just no.

It is not rocket science how to fix this.

Either lower the base damage of all the new delve weapons
or
Increase REM base dmg at 99 to slightly less than these Delve weapons. They don't need to be higher as we do have aftermath etc for our hard work but the point still stands.

Why bother trying to change the enmity system if you just going to let people spam 12 k tachi shoha and resolution. It is insane! No one will be able to hold hate against that, not to mention SMN and its crappy avatars are going to be left in the dust even more with their avatars 40 base dmg 400 + delay attacks!

Anything short of an immediate update with either one of these two changes come Monday after Golden Week will lose you my subscription.

[noirin]

Yes yes, i built Guttler because i just HAD to have Onslaught.
Snap out of it SE, if i was just aiming for a weapon to do high damage i could perform just as well using Ruinator with any axe.

[pretre]

Let's take a step back and think for a second...

If SE makes these weapons and offers them to you, only you, nobody else will have them but you, will you still complain? of course not because you want to hit hard, the harder the better. The bigger the number the more fun, right? That's the reason you make RME in the first place. Now, why is it a problem when SE offers these weapons to everyone else too?

The root problem to this is the steep requirement to aquire RME. People spend too much time, even years to work on these weapons. It is understandable for them to rage when all their efforts were in vain. I feel sorry for those who just completed their RME. However, the idea of some specials weapons stay on top year after year, expansion after expansion, from the start to then end of game's life is silly.

I disagree there called super weapons an take silly time to make because there supposed to be the top weapons

[Neojuggs]

@ Vitus

To you maybe but by your arguement, I'm going to assume you have no 99 ERM weapon (I could be wrong). I'm not pulling the elitist card, I'm just saying unless you went through the crap to getting one, I don't see how you can legitimately argue your point. That's like me saying it's stupid for parents to gawk about the typical achievements their children make...I'm single and don't understand it so I just don't say anything. Regardless, for me, the weapon is more than just the ws or the damage. I know I'm not the only one that equips their 99 ERM weapon just to stare at it lol. I usually think about the good events that lead to its creation and the sense of virtual achievement lol. There is more to all this than just epeen. Anyway, not saying your perspective is wrong, I just don't think you fully understand from other peoples' positions as to why we are taking such offense to this.

[Smokesalot]

Now, why is it a problem when SE offers these weapons to everyone else too?

Last I checked, anyone with an account can get R/M/E weapons...

[Camate]

I understand the delicacy of this discussion and everyone's feelings on the matter; however, please keep in mind that Producer Matsui has indicated that all of this is no where near finalized at this point and they are still in the early discussion phase.

With that said, there have been quite a few posts that we have had to remove due to inappropriate language, so please keep this in mind when making a reply to this thread.

As always, I will be doing all that I can so that your opinions are delivered to the development team and rest assured that your voice is being heard.

[Cahlum]

I think that is entirely the point; why release these new super delve weapons when you have no idea what you want to do with the old ones!

[Kojo]

I understand the delicacy of this discussion and everyone's feelings on the matter; however, please keep in mind that Producer Matsui has indicated that all of this is no where near finalized at this point and they are still in the early discussion phase.

With that said, there have been quite a few posts that we have had to remove due to inappropriate language, so please keep this in mind when making a reply to this thread.

As always, I will be doing all that I can so that your opinions are delivered to the development team and rest assured that your voice is being heard.

We're all counting on you, good luck!

Also, thanks for patching things through!

[Smokesalot]

they are still in the early discussion phase

Is this thread evidence enough that they should throw this idea out?

[Samosa]

I agree with everyone on this, this is not the best option or even a good option to keep the RME's current. To get these weapons you generally have to have at least a small group willing to help, so this is not only wasting one individuals time, but also the time of his/her friends who are helping.
Also how will this work for Mythic weapons? you can already unlock the WS easily enough.