New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Concerned4FFxi]

I completely agree with that. But I still enjoy the game.

If you no longer choose to support FFXI, cool, that's your choice, and I support your right to have that choice. When a dead person tries to tell the living how to live, that's when I have a problem.

Edit: I should mention that I'm not trying to say you're not entitled to an opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. It's not a matter of whether or not you're allowed to have opinions. It's a matter of the weight your opinion carries. I currently pay SE, and I intend to continue doing so into the unforseen future. Should your opinion shape the game as much as mine if you do not pay SE and have no plans to pay SE?

Yes, because this game has been carried by the backs of ALL of the subcribers up until now, present and past. You can't get to were you are today, without his subscription yesterday.

[Horadrim]

I'd avoid Gungnir Actually too, Its a pretty sad excuse for a weapon unfortunately. The OAT Weapon is your best bet if you can't get a Mythic.

But yah Try to get the Skirmish weapon , hell, If you got a good job, I'm still missing 1 person for my Skirmish Static... If you want the Lance, No one has that reserved yet... Only thing is you'll have to help us farm Soul pyre every so often when we go. usually not too bad they're a good group of folks.

Tell me what job you need and I'll have it well geared by the weekend. I'm sort of obsessive compulsive like that.

Actually working on gearing my COR, could probably finish WoE gun and +1 by the weekend, +2 by Wednesday.

Otherwise I have like 12 jobs lv. 99, most lv. 90+ except for DRG70 (finishing it today), WAR/DNC/NIN50, and the 4 jobs I haven't bothered to get up. (THF/RNG/MNK/DRK)

Mains right now are RUN/GEO/COR/DRG. So anything for those would be nice (I imagine crobaci is in high demand, though.) And farming soul pyres sounds alright by me. I need to skill up my Marksmanship anyway, and it I'm always looking for an excuse to spend more time in the Mummer's coalition (not even being sarcastic, something about that place makes me lul).

[Karbuncle]

Crobaci has 1 Person on it so far, Dagger has 2, SMN Staff has 1, maybe 2... outside of that, We're just going by a lot honor system since we all be FRANZ and stuff.

COR Would probably be the most desired and awesome bet. Finish that and just get it respectable (I.E have gear in all your spaces >_>) By The weekend, and I'll get ya in. We could really use a COR.

Melee Set optional, Though I'd avoid Melee range on some NMs (Umbrils)... Might just have you sub WHM TBH to help with Erase/NA's and be a Buffer/WildfireSPLOSIONS.

[Asymptotic]

DRG is mathematically crippled without Ryunohige (It is the only available weapon that manages to address DRG's inherent weaknesses). That has little to do with the weapons though; it's mostly a direct result of DRG's design: while the other heavy DDs have native ways to boost their TP gain, attack frequency, attack, and/or attack speed and can sub each other to take advantage of the others. DRG does not have access to these boosts and must obtain all of them from a support job. Ryunohige is the only way DRG can bring its performance up to par with other more common heavy DD. Other jobs may have options that are 5-10% behind their preferred prestige weapon in performance, but non-Ryunohige DRG is at best 60% of a Ryunohige DRG.

The power of Ryunohige may be hurting DRG as a whole though, because if they give DRG boosts such that non-Ryunohige DRG is competitive with other heavy DD, Ryunohige DRG will just become even stronger.

[Horadrim]

Crobaci has 1 Person on it so far, Dagger has 2, SMN Staff has 1, maybe 2... outside of that, We're just going by a lot honor system since we all be FRANZ and stuff.

COR Would probably be the most desired and awesome bet. Finish that and just get it respectable (I.E have gear in all your spaces >_>) By The weekend, and I'll get ya in. We could really use a COR.

Melee Set optional, Though I'd avoid Melee range on some NMs (Umbrils)... Might just have you sub WHM TBH to help with Erase/NA's and be a Buffer/WildfireSPLOSIONS.

Guess I have a day of NM camping ahead of me, lol. I'll focus on COR and finish DRG another weekend, then. (Considering how much I love the job, I've got not a single quail with that.)

Funnily enough, I already have a melee set, but I'd rather /WHM and be a explosupport. BOOM BOOM Nah nah nah nah~ Boom!

DRG is mathematically crippled without Ryunohige (It is the only available weapon that manages to address DRG's inherent weaknesses). That has little to do with the weapons though; it's mostly a direct result of DRG's design: while the other heavy DDs have native ways to boost their TP gain, attack frequency, attack, and/or attack speed and can sub each other to take advantage of the others. DRG does not have access to these boosts and must obtain all of them from a support job. Ryunohige is the only way DRG can bring its performance up to par with other more common heavy DD. Other jobs may have options that are 5-10% behind their preferred prestige weapon in performance, but non-Ryunohige DRG is at best 60% of a Ryunohige DRG.

The power of Ryunohige may be hurting DRG as a whole though, because if they give DRG boosts such that non-Ryunohige DRG is competitive with other heavy DD, Ryunohige DRG will just become even stronger.

Yeah, stuff like this is chief among my arguments against the structure of RME right now. PLD and DRG shouldn't require RMEs to be able to even be remotely useful in their base functionality. It's kind of asinine.

As far as I've come to understand it in the modern climate, PLD is useless with Aegis/Ochain these days (Which I can't argue against, Ochain tanks basically AFK in Adoulin while horribly non-Ochains struggle their damnedest and get stomped) and DRG (along with maybe PUP, in the DD sense) are basically eye rolls without aftermaths.

Meanwhile, COR (and RNG, I imagine) can build WoE and be just as viable as if they had build Arma 99? That's kind of asinine.

[Jaall]

The power of Ryunohige may be hurting DRG as a whole though, because if they give DRG boosts such that non-Ryunohige DRG is competitive with other heavy DD, Ryunohige DRG will just become even stronger.

That's actually part of the reason I quit. I love DRG and made a Gungnir and as nice as it is, it just isn't Ryuno because DRG as a whole is very flawed. It will, however, never be fixed due to 2 things - SE still see DRG as a self dependant DD although the demand for such a DD is very little and tbh the only place I could actually pull my weight was NNI because "all" floors had mobs with reasonably low defence compared to other events, that I could hit hard enough on while also curing myself and whoever else was on my DD team. The other reason being, like you said, that Ryuno would have to be nerfed if such changes were made and that would most likely cause a lot of anger in the mythic community so they might as well leave it as it is. Shame really but that was kinda what pushed me over the edge and decided it for me that I don't really want to play anymore especially with Gungnir being made even more gimp in comparison!

[Asymptotic]

Yeah, stuff like this is chief among my arguments against the structure of RME right now. PLD and DRG shouldn't require RMEs to be able to even be remotely useful in their base functionality. It's kind of asinine.

In the case of DRG they'll either have to make major adjustments to the job or release something wild and crazy with stats that would probably make our heads explode.



I don't know about you, but I don't think FFXI is quite ready for Alanis Morisette in Polearm form.

PLD is another interesting case of flawed design because SE did not give the job the native tools to do what players need it to do and chose to address it through equipment instead of adjusting the job. At least in the case of Ochain, it only needs to be at 90 to be functional.

[Taint2]

Just to post this here, I've been mathing Crobaci vs Rag. (There are a few Crobaci's floating around on Cerberus now, and probably a lot more incoming)

For DRK Crobaci (12str 10wdmg aug) using a 5hit can edge out 99 Rag. But of the 3 Crobaci's I've seen only one was augmented (no idea why) and it had STR14 DEX8 if I remember correctly. Pretty safe to say 99Rag > Crobaci unless it has ridic augments.

Most of these weapons seem on par with 95 Relics which is probably exactly what SE was going for.

[Horadrim]

Just to post this here, I've been mathing Crobaci vs Rag. (There are a few Crobaci's floating around on Cerberus now, and probably a lot more incoming)

For DRK Crobaci (12str 10wdmg aug) using a 5hit can edge out 99 Rag. But of the 3 Crobaci's I've seen only one was augmented (no idea why) and it had STR14 DEX8 if I remember correctly. Pretty safe to say 99Rag > Crobaci unless it has ridic augments.

Most of these weapons seem on par with 95 Relics which is probably exactly what SE was going for.

I think the numeric values of the Skirmish weapons seem more extravagant than they actually are, but I think it goes without saying that maximum augments they are solid competition. They'll be able to keep up rather well with 99 RME without a doubt.

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I'm thinking I can offer this and this by the end of next week (most of it within the weekend.)

Depending on what my weekend ends up looking like. Anything purchasable is obviously easy (just need to do a bit of farming) -- Demon Ring farming will be pretty painless, I have some people I can call out, and and I can brew Irath/Raja/already have ACP final boss loaded for a new Mirke.

In other words... Boom~!

EDIT: had to change the gun, put the wrong one.

[Karbuncle]

Sounds good to me. So long as you can keep Rolls up and Deal even some damage, I'll consider it a success.