STICKY TO PLDs + DNCs

[Demon6324236]

OP you have no idea what your talking about. I have ochain on PLD mobs hit me for 0, I pick up all the mobs so people can kill the log. If I didn't tank all the mobs people could not kill the log especially when theres only a couple of people there.

OP you shouldn't post if you have no idea what you are talking about or how to even play the game.

Double edged sword, hold all of the mobs and people only zerg the objective, which rewards the people doing it with few points, hold no mobs and people can not survive to even attack the objective, which rewards the people doing it with no points. Your average player is simply to short sighted to think its possibly better to draw out a battle than to simply end it as fast as possible, then again thats what you get when zerg content like we have had over the last couple years encourages killing as fast as possible with little restraint.

[Horadrim]

^ As a PLD, I pull mobs to one side so DDs can pull them off me and not get AoE. The problem I see with reives is simple and maybe the OP falls in this category:

- Selfish and runs to roots ignoring other players clearing the mobs.
- BST and sics pet on roots then sits back doing nothing.
- Dies from AoE/aggro while hitting roots and blames it on others.
- Die from lack of common sense, situational awareness, or in this case the effective role of a good PLD.

I ignore these ppl or bring all the mobs to the roots to have AoE kill them. Killing the roots immediately is stupid anyway as you will get less Bayld per reive. Killing mobs then attacking roots and clearing repops has always given me more because the reive lasts longer.

PLDs are the only reason I enjoy Reives. When a PLD is tanking like a boss if gives me free reign to dive in and help him out. As long as he focuses down on one mob, he can be healed, buffed, and helped without people getting mobbed and the DD's can focus down the roots or individual mobs.

Supertanks are one of the best parts of Reives.

Double edged sword, hold all of the mobs and people only zerg the objective, which rewards the people doing it with few points, hold no mobs and people can not survive to even attack the objective, which rewards the people doing it with no points. Your average player is simply to short sighted to think its possibly better to draw out a battle than to simply end it as fast as possible, then again thats what you get when zerg content like we have had over the last couple years encourages killing as fast as possible with little restraint.

Counter point: Successful completion of reives rewards ALL of us by allowing the zone to be colonized. So even if you don't get a ton of Bayld from an individual Reive, you're going to get tons from the missions/quests that become available as we progress into new areas.

[Zumi]

Double edged sword, hold all of the mobs and people only zerg the objective, which rewards the people doing it with few points, hold no mobs and people can not survive to even attack the objective, which rewards the people doing it with no points. Your average player is simply to short sighted to think its possibly better to draw out a battle than to simply end it as fast as possible, then again thats what you get when zerg content like we have had over the last couple years encourages killing as fast as possible with little restraint.

Did Rieve in moh gates, had about 5 people killing the log and I was holding all the mobs it still took 25 min to kill the log, earned about 8k bayad.

[Kintups]

WHAT A NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB

[Kojo]

I have no idea how to respond to what OP said, so here's a picture of a frog I drew.

[OmnysValefor]

that's what happens when you go from 30-99 in aby in a day. You have NFC how to play your class

I sincerely hope that wasn't directed at me, but at the people that "can't solo them". I aby-pl'd a few jobs (blm, bst, sam..) but PLD was my original main and one of my favorites =).

Of course, many people who aby-pl have learned how to play their classes and are great at them but a lot of blms don't understand why they're not 1-2 shotting the enemy.

Sorry, yes I'm defensive, love my paladin.

[Kojo]

Something that strikes me as funny is this is one of those horrible posts, but the OP post has no likes, even the guy that wants SE to charge everyone $10 per update got 5 likes, and he had the worst idea I've ever seen on these forums, including my own.

[Babekeke]

Double edged sword, hold all of the mobs and people only zerg the objective, which rewards the people doing it with few points, hold no mobs and people can not survive to even attack the objective, which rewards the people doing it with no points. Your average player is simply to short sighted to think its possibly better to draw out a battle than to simply end it as fast as possible, then again thats what you get when zerg content like we have had over the last couple years encourages killing as fast as possible with little restraint.

If people want to just zerg the root, let them. They get very little reward for doing so. However, if I was that PLD holding all the mobs, I'd be sorely tempted to just walk out of the reive area and let the mobs return to wandering. Especially if there were more than about 3 ppl there. If it's just 1-3 ppl there then it makes sense to just attack the objective, especially if you actually want to pass the reive to get to the other side.

Personally I'm quite happy to let a PLD hold the mobs, the noobs hit the objective, and I'll pick mobs off the PLD and kill them to help everyone's Bayld out. Only mobs I don't like are bees (final sting can 1-shot me with little that I can do about it >.>) and the twytherims... AOE paralyze and silence spam is bad from a DRG/RDM's point of view.

[OmnysValefor]

Unfortunately, one person picking things off doesn't help much. If there's enough people doing it, these walls just don't last long (campaign walls lasted longer, a lot longer). And lair rieves (wasp nests, etc) don't last at all.

SE needs to teach people this isn't campaign, it isn't bastion, it does work differently.

[Urthdigger]

I wish I had the same problem on my server. Rather than the walls going down insanely fast, I just see groups getting wiped.