Severe pet enmity issues post-update... Please fix today.

[Zumi]

A bunch of level 99 pets shouldn't kick the bejesus out of a level 80-85 mob? Are you high?

Despite a whole lotta hate towards pet jobs, if I'm killing something with my pet, I should never get hate just by casting dia II on it. And that's what happened tonight. My pet was was hitting and doing damage to to an umbril, and that thing pursued me to the ends of the earth for one frigging spell. No matter how many times my pet hit it, it would break off and go for me.

That's broken...point blank.

Fix this already.

Level 99 players can't do the same thing that are not pet without a lot of planning on odin, like aoe stoneskin, phalanx, scherzo. Due to the fact pets take much less damage then players or in the case of smn doesn't matter if it dies. With SMN doesn't matter if their pet dies resummon, bst is just spam items to regain its hp while taking much less damage then a player does.

I seen odin pet burns pre patch and there is no skill or anything involved with it. However if you use actual players you have to be really careful have certain buffs up to survive.

[Tannlore]

Level 99 players can't do the same thing that are not pet without a lot of planning on odin, like aoe stoneskin, phalanx, scherzo. Due to the fact pets take much less damage then players or in the case of smn doesn't matter if it dies. With SMN doesn't matter if their pet dies resummon, bst is just spam items to regain its hp while taking much less damage then a player does.

I seen odin pet burns pre patch and there is no skill or anything involved with it. However if you use actual players you have to be really careful have certain buffs up to survive.

My LS did old Odin last night and had no problems, sorry your "solution" in this case doesn't seem to work. We took odin down with smn/pups/bst just fine, despite the enmity issues.

When we did ultima that's where the problem arose. Why? We did a more traditional route with actual tanks and healers, and the enmity was so borked it was impossible. Our whm just couldn't cure our paladin to save her life without pulling hate.

So sorry, there is a problem and I personally thing it effects the non pet jobs more than us. Specifically it hurts that type of gaming style you seem to prefer. So before you go nanananing about pet burns getting their just deserts, realize this first.

Also, understand SMN. It NEEDS for the avatar to tank for it, period. If it doesn't, then it is broken. "fixing" a problem by breaking a job, no matter how much the problem needs to be fixed, is -not- a solution.... ever, period. They need to find a different solution.

[Himrik]

MOur whm just couldn't cure our paladin to save her life without pulling hate.

PLD enmity is not generating via DPS, and healing enmity was reduced (Except for Cure V, which wasn't changed), so the only way for a PLD to not keep hate over a WHM is...a bad PLD, sorry.

[Tannlore]

PLD enmity is not generating via DPS, and healing enmity was reduced (Except for Cure V, which wasn't changed), so the only way for a PLD to not keep hate over a WHM is...a bad PLD, sorry.

Exactly how would our paladin keep hate then if you could explain? If it wasn't the two flashes, or the three provokes, or the 7 requisats, reprisals or the 6+ cure IVs, or the shield bashes, or the melee hits.... Explain to me how a Cure 3, a single... cure 3 pulls hate off all of that? A cure 3 with nothing else having been done at all. Then the white mage was killed after the paladin continued to flash, provoke, shield bash, WS, Cure IVed the whm.. and still the whm died.

It should -not-, it wasn't a bad paladin sorry, next time ask for details before assuming bad players, it's highly rude and will garner a rude response from me in turn.

edit: And as the JP forums now say, there IS in fact a problem as you can see. Thank you.

Edit 2: Here is the English post, nothing about pet enmity yet

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...502#post415502

[Himrik]

Exactly how would our paladin keep hate then if you could explain? If it wasn't the two flashes, or the three provokes, or the 7 requisats, reprisals or the 6+ cure IVs, or the shield bashes, or the melee hits.... Explain to me how a Cure 3, a single... cure 3 pulls hate off all of that? A cure 3 with nothing else having been done at all. Then the white mage was killed after the paladin continued to flash, provoke, shield bash, WS, Cure IVed the whm.. and still the whm died.

You see, I played all the afternoon as a PUP soloing monsters, and with a few Animated flourishes, my Automaton couldn't take the mob off me even with Cure V or Cure VI, so basically, I don't see any problem with Cure enmity when you do a simple tank job.
Maybe your server is bugged...

If I understood correctly, a WHM pulled hate with a Cure III but the PLD can't get the mob back with several Cure IV ?! If the curing enmity was flawed as you claim, the PLD should get massive hate from Cures.

[Absinthe]

You see, I played all the afternoon as a PUP soloing monsters, and with a few Animated flourishes, my Automaton couldn't take the mob off me even with Cure V or Cure VI, so basically, I don't see any problem with Cure enmity when you do a simple tank job.
Maybe your server is bugged....

Maybe my server is bugged too, because my automaton is pulling hate off of me when he casts cure on me or slow on my monster. Something has definitely changed...

[Edyth]

Bumping after editing main post.... God help us.