Walk of Echoes: Has anything changed?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

From what I've seen, a single LS with pet/ranged jobs could smash WoE now. Have fun!

So a full alliance or so of exactly the right kinds of jobs? /sigh

At any rate, I just established that 6 players from my LS, all level 90+, can't beat #01. 45 minutes (not counting travel time) and nothing to show for it. So... same ol' same ol' from my perspective.

I'm about ready to drop the damned weapon.

[Caketime]

So a full alliance or so of exactly the right kinds of jobs? /sigh

At any rate, I just established that 6 players from my LS, all level 90+, can't beat #01. 45 minutes (not counting travel time) and nothing to show for it. So... same ol' same ol' from my perspective.

I'm about ready to drop the damned weapon.

Suck less. Sorry, but I've got no sympathy for you, every event is exclusionary to some extent. This event has always been favorable to pet and ranged jobs, lower mob levels doesn't suddenly mean zerg material, which is actually a good thing. AoE Weakness + Curse and Bio auras are radical.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Suck less. Sorry, but I've got no sympathy for you, every event is exclusionary to some extent.

This brings us back to the same old complaints about WoE about reward versus effort. My group could have gone to Dynamis instead, in which we would have (1) made demonstrable progress towards (2) real weapons.

This event has always been favorable to pet and ranged jobs, lower mob levels doesn't suddenly mean zerg material, which is actually a good thing.

Prior trials were tier 2 Voidwalkers, which always could be zerged with a less-than-full alliance even at 75-80. The next trials are kindred crests, of which everyone already has several hundred.

If WoE is "working as intended," it's time for S-E to stop pretending and improve the stats on WoE weapons. Meanwhile, I'm back to watching /search results until a full alliance of pet jobs pops in WoE before making any progress.

[Brytor]

So a full alliance or so of exactly the right kinds of jobs? /sigh

At any rate, I just established that 6 players from my LS, all level 90+, can't beat #01. 45 minutes (not counting travel time) and nothing to show for it. So... same ol' same ol' from my perspective.

Before the changes #1 was easy with 4 people (3x SMN +BRD). Now it should be a joke.

Now it seems almost all fluxes can be won with ~12 people (non pet/ranged). We usually do 1 tank/DD party & 1 party of BLM/SCH/Magic dammage (or SMN if they do not have a nuke job) . The biggest problem I've had is random people who come in and have no concept of what to do/following directions (if there is 12-18 people from same LS saying what to do and 2 random people who should you listen to?). An example is #15 we clear everything since it weakens the boss and about 50% of the time some random person comes in and runs to boss even though we are fighting at top of stairs near entrance and then runs back and brings everything on top of us.

WoE seems incredibly easy now if you go in without a balanced setup and non brain dead people.