final fantasy xi expansion being excluded from playstion2 users

[Jaall]

Even if they dropped PS2 support do you really think the game would be any better?? SE aren't even updating the gameplay that isn't being held back by PS2 let alone the things that are. Also, even if they did start implementing changes that have been held back, it wouldn't include a massive graphic overhaul, it wont look like FFXIV and if it did everyone would complain because their cheap, old computers couldn't run it. Seriously, do you guys even realise what you're saying or what you're arguing for? I do agree the PS2 is old but so's FFXI, you all even said that. Stop placing all the blame on PS2 and start realising where the actual blame lies... Age of the game itself.

Ps - I have never once played it on PS2 and have no intention to, only 360 and PC, currently have a very good PC running it happily, but that doesn't mean I hate PS2. But I do agree that it's very easy to switch to a PC and can be pretty cheap.

[zataz]

guess ill start it <,< x box limitations!!!

[Volkai]

The harsh truth is that SE determined the cost of manufacturing and distributing Adoulin on PS2 for the NA region outweighed the potential profit margin of doing so. The math is not in your favor.

It sucks, but that's how it is.

[zataz]

The harsh truth is that SE determined the cost of manufacturing and distributing Adoulin on PS2 for the NA region outweighed the potential profit margin of doing so. The math is not in your favor.

It sucks, but that's how it is.

yep pc ftw >.>

[Volkai]

yep pc ftw >.>

Actually there are enough active Xbox players to have justified the cost of both expansion and ultimate collection disc for NA region, so it's not PC only.


Anyways, consider this question - which goes better (less badly) for SE - charging PS2 players a higher rate for the expansion (to offset a guaranteed smaller volume of sales), or not selling it at all?

Either way, SE suffers negative PR. Not making the discs removes potential profit but also avoids significant costs. Making the discs has a definite real cost but if the price is too high nobody buys it vs. if the price is too low you lose money anyways due to the limited pool of buyers.


Damn but I wish I could make a good fiscal case for SE releasing Adoulin on PS2 NA. I'd buy it straightaway.

[Alhanelem]

They didn't help much to start with, so old man is just getting bent because he has a bunch of ps2 that omg have no use anymore. Christ on a cracker its a outdated system and why make disc that the largest retail outlets won't carry. Only reason xbox 360 got disc is retailer are still stocking the 360 and the games it plays.

Also really how hard is it to find and update a video driver, if you can't do that or least know someone that can( like a niece or nephew or the 13 year old kid next door) what cave have you been living in. That is the most you would have to do to get ffxi to run on just about any laptop or pc.

I think you misunderstand- I'm with you- the statement was more directed at Windows XP support being dropped. A lot of people thought it meant the game won't run on XP anymore, when that's not the case at all.

[Hayward]

Were it not for the fact FFXI runs well on Boot Camped Windows 8, I'd have had to abandon FFXI entirely as I don't trust the XBox360 structurally (see: Red Ring of Death) or any non-MacBook for various reasons. The half-measure S-E took toward PS2 was about as gutless as I've seen in a game company and left a lot of American PS2 players high and dry. There's no excuse for that, no matter the financial analysis.

[Alhanelem]

or any non-MacBook for various reasons.

This is the silliest thing I've ever heard of. There are plenty of well-made laptops out there. When you buy apple, you're not necessarily getting higher build quality- they just charge an absurd premium for the same hardware as in any non-mac PC. Apple is to computers what some famous designer is to clothing- you're paying for form more than function. (Don't get me wrong, I like Mac OSX- But i'd sooner build a Hackintosh then buy a computer directly from apple.. I don't hate macs, they're just ridiculously overpriced.)

Lenovo (formerly IBM) think pads are built like tanks. Asus is a good brand too. Ironically, the ones you've probably heard of the most are the ones I'd reccomend avoiding.

If you hate windows, then try Linux instead. Ubuntu is as user-friendly as they come.

[Volkai]

Were it not for the fact FFXI runs well on Boot Camped Windows 8, I'd have had to abandon FFXI entirely as I don't trust the XBox360 structurally (see: Red Ring of Death) or any non-MacBook for various reasons. The half-measure S-E took toward PS2 was about as gutless as I've seen in a game company and left a lot of American PS2 players high and dry. There's no excuse for that, no matter the financial analysis.

You understand that SE is a for-profit company, right?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Actually there are enough active Xbox players to have justified the cost of both expansion and ultimate collection disc for NA region

EU, not so much.

Globalization doesn't exist in the video game world, it seems.