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    Player Makenshi's Avatar
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    Are all the best weaqpons from Trial of the Magians these days?

    So i have been gone from the game for some time now. Just came back a few days ago.

    Was looking at weapons for BLU and found the Almace. The requirements for this thing are just outright unreasonable.

    Are they all like this? I'm remembering why i never went anywhere near TOTM when i last played.
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    Player Kincard's Avatar
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    Almace actually isn't as hard to get as it first looks. But to answer your question, yes and no. All the second-tier weapons that are really good come from trials of the magian as well, but most of them are significantly easier to get than Almace. Failing that, there are some decent weapons that can be bought off AH (Galenus), Dominion Credits (Firmament), or drops off of NMs (Sanus Ensis).

    The absolute best weapons will always be the hardest to get.

    Take a look here. If Almace is unreasonable for you to obtain I recommend getting the Strength Shikargar swords, those are really good.
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    Last edited by Kincard; 03-23-2013 at 09:03 PM.

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    If you really hate the Trials of the Magians, if you hate Trials of Magians like a cat hates a Roomba, what I'd recommend over the short term is just picking up two Apaisantes and waiting a week to see if anything in Seekers of Adoulin is as decent as a STR Shikigar.
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    ....

    Did I just see someone type "Almace is unreasonable"?
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    "Tonight on the Vana'diel Report, a poor innocent player lost a valuable 10-15 seconds of their lives by reading Antanias's signature."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
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    Did I just see someone type "Almace is unreasonable"?
    Only if you see things out of context.
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    Well, if you don't have a significant chunk of time to allocate for pop NM camping (or think it's incredibly boring) then yes it is unreasonable.
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    Empyreans are easy to get for the people who have been playing this game for a long while but for people who just came back or are new to the game it probably looks really intimidating.

    But even ignoring that, it still takes a good like...~20 hours of playtime to actually get an Empyrean 85 done with 2 peeps (Varies depending on which weapon and competition I suppose)? In XI terms that's not a lot, but when you think of it in the context of "that's about a third of the time it takes to 100% a single-player RPG", it is quite a bit of time for a single weapon, heh.
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    Almace is an Empyrean, it's a rough equivelant of taking on a Relic weapon from Dynamis, although attainable in a much, much shorter timeframe if you have the resources available to farm efficiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
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    Did I just see someone type "Almace is unreasonable"?
    For a player just coming back from hiatus needing to do final level cap and likely in need of AF3 upgrades, it could seem a tad unreasonable. I'd use the term monotonous to describe the activity, personally.
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    Player Makenshi's Avatar
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    It just seems outright insane to me. Look at some of these examples for it.

    Having to kill the same NM 50-75 times
    Collect 1500 -3000 of an item

    Even for those that play constantly i dont see where they get the time or just give up out of boredom.
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