Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Zeitzone]

Zeitzone,

Why are you insisting on forcing people to play a way you deem acceptable?

I do not like that term force, but you use it often.

Forcing people to level outside of Abyssea.

It does not seem fair to force people to play the game.

As long as they are not playing with you, which you can avoid by simply not joining a party they're in, why do you want to force people to play the way you want them to play?

Any game is forcing you in its limits, thats normal, so ffxi did too, they just change the foundation, now its not the old ffxi anymore alot ppl loved.

[HFX7686]

Any game is forcing you in its limits, thats normal, so ffxi did too, they just change the foundation, now its not the old ffxi anymore alot ppl loved.

Why do you get to decide what the game forces?

[magnius]

Any game is forcing you in its limits, thats normal, so ffxi did too, they just change the foundation, now its not the old ffxi anymore alot ppl loved.

I loved old FFXI too, but I also love Abyssea and all of its content.

[Zeitzone]

I loved old FFXI too, but I also love Abyssea and all of its content.

I like Abyssea too, but i am for the above level 70 Access, that was my statement from the start, but ppl allways try to change the subject.
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[magnius]

I like Abyssea too, but i am for the above level 70 Access

If you left it at that, I don't think anyone woulda said anything, but you added outlandish statements that were not supported from any sort data or statements from SE, which is what people's issue was.

[Zeitzone]

If you left it at that, I don't think anyone woulda said anything, but you added outlandish statements that were not supported from any sort data or statements from SE, which is what people's issue was.

No, ppl just turn my words in my mouth around, i sayd that all late changes in the game showing that SE do not want leechers, thats why you can make FoV all day, thats why they raised the exp outside auf Abyssea.
See is trying to stop the leeching with this. Se allways tryed to prevent leeching in this game, thats why there has always been the 3 level gap for exp.
SE knows that they cant forbbide the leeching, neighter they care if all leeching disapears, but the amount of leeching is definitely to high for this game.

Those ppl just want to flame, thats why they turn the words in every mouth around or grab for any straw to flame.

[Nacht]

Se allways tryed to prevent leeching in this game, thats why there has always been the 3 level gap for exp.
SE knows that they cant forbbide the leeching, neighter they care if all leeching disapears, but the amount of leeching is definitely to high for this game.

First things first. Spell-check, please.

Next, as long as the melees were around the same level, it didn't matter that much if the support was lower. You can have a bard and healer much lower than the DDs and the party would be fine. 3 level gap was more like: if a DD is more than 3 levels below the highest person, then they were going to miss way too much.

Finally, if SE was so adamant about leeching, they would have done something about smn burning a long time ago.

[Mrbeansman]

No, ppl just turn my words in my mouth around, i sayd that all late changes in the game showing that SE do not want leechers, thats why you can make FoV all day, thats why they raised the exp outside auf Abyssea.
See is trying to stop the leeching with this. Se allways tryed to prevent leeching in this game, thats why there has always been the 3 level gap for exp.
SE knows that they cant forbbide the leeching, neighter they care if all leeching disapears, but the amount of leeching is definitely to high for this game.

Those ppl just want to flame, thats why they turn the words in every mouth around or grab for any straw to flame.

Can you make a single argument that isn't based on your personal opinion?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Can you make a single argument that isn't based on your personal opinion?

Can you make an argumant without personal opinion? Is that possible?