Overall Battle System Adjustments for the Future

[Yinnyth]

It's not magic damage no, but anytime it's used it's used because that's what would otherwise be wanted (flans, slimes, Cerb, bulwark etc etc). The problem was never that Twilight Scythe was overpowered though. Taking for example salvage, the problem is that bringing a BLM/SCH/whatever nuker would help on Cerb/Hydra significantly, but the problem is that I don't need them the rest of the run and they just end up being dead weight. It wouldn't be such a problem if salvage gave you points and then you bought plans with the points, but instead they're drops that need to be shared amongst the amount of people you take in.

But why would you bring that person BLM, when they could simply go DRK and equip Twilight Scythe? It's a better option than bringing a BLM who could simply equip Claustrum when enemies are strong to magic(because Claustrum is worse for physical damage than Twilight Scythe is for non-phys, non-magic damage.)

Twilight Scythe currently replaces magic damage because it's simpler.

[Vinedrai]

inb4
1)thf has too much th+. we are adjusting thief's knife so that it will only affect the initial treasure hunter rank in a certain situation which no one would ever figure out.
2)smn has too many avatars and versatility is a b***h so we are droping all the avatars and presenting you one ultimate avatar, the cutiest wutiest enigmatic cat: Ca!... Cai!... oh crap, we totally forgot about it, what was its name again?
3)we found out that sam is not currently as OP as we envisioned since the very first day. step aside you inferior DDs! with the next version update, you will be able to dual wield great katanas!... but only while you have your flag from "/jobemote sam" up on your back.

[Thoraeon]

A few things bug me about the suggested adjustments to the merit weaponskills.

Most people who have 5/5 in 3 weaponskills are not going to put less merits in so they can have other weaker weaponskills. People spend millions of gil to upgrade 90 emps to 99 and relics from 95 to 99. What makes you think that they would downgrade their one of their best weaponskills?

Since you can merit combat skills for 4 weapons fully, why not make it so you can fully merit 4 weaponskills?

I have a 99 Twashtar, a 99 Ragnarok, and a 95 (soon 99) Annihilator. As such, I have Resolution, Exenterator, and Last Stand all at 5/5. If I wanted to level another job, lets say Samurai, I would have to drop one of these in order to compete with other Sam's. Basically, until something is done about the merit weaponskill cap, I cannot use another job that depends on merit weaponskills.

[FrankReynolds]

inb4
1)thf has too much th+. we are adjusting thief's knife so that it will only affect the initial treasure hunter rank in a certain situation which no one would ever figure out.

I would love it if they did that. The way that they have it set up so that thief has to wear all that gimp crap is total BS. I sort of wish they would just remove that job from the game at this point. It really sucks how much they have screwed that job.

Ask 100 people what matters in the game, and you'll get 100 different answers. Case in point:

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He's probably not being serious, but there are most likely people out there who do want that. #cheesesammich

The thing is... I've actually seen people asking for cross dressing before. Never heard a peep about this weapon before though. Can you honestly say that there aren't a million other more important things to fix right now? IS the twilight scythe really something that we need to be doing right now?

[Metaking]

But why would you bring that person BLM, when they could simply go DRK and equip Twilight Scythe? It's a better option than bringing a BLM who could simply equip Claustrum when enemies are strong to magic(because Claustrum is worse for physical damage than Twilight Scythe is for non-phys, non-magic damage.)

Twilight Scythe currently replaces magic damage because it's simpler.

actually in cases like that your generally better off bringing a blu or a rdm who have req sets as well as a nukeing set, also part of blms problem is when was the last time you saw a Real balls deep blm, there not that common anymore, you got a better chance of a blu with a full nukeing set than finding a blm pushing it to the limit.....

[saevel]

actually in cases like that your generally better off bringing a blu or a rdm who have req sets as well as a nukeing set

This.

Anyone with access to Req can make Cerb look stupid easy. It's such a large difference that I've since build a Req set for my WAR/SAM. I go in charging with Reso and when it gets down to 30~40% HP, or when my Reso's start doing ~1K I'll switch to sword and board and spam Req. Fight goes faster. A SAM with that Uptalla GKT could do the same thing. Twilight scyth is not that great because it's only TP damage that ignores -DT not WS damage. DRK gets a large portion of it's damage from WS's so to equip a Twilight scythe your already cutting your damage to less then 50%.

[Riggs]

se has not changed at all, they come in and make posts about how they listen to feed back but its all lies they care nothing for their player base opinions, why not just do what you really want to do, delete abyssea and all its gear and put everyone back to level 75. I've already canceled 2 accounts and if this nerfing continues i'll be canceling my last account

[Yinnyth]

se has not changed at all, they come in and make posts about how they listen to feed back but its all lies they care nothing for their player base opinions, why not just do what you really want to do, delete abyssea and all its gear and put everyone back to level 75. I've already canceled 2 accounts and if this nerfing continues i'll be canceling my last account

I'll cancel my 3 accounts if SE does not go through with nerfing Twilight Scythe. Then I'll cut off my own hands and run around punching people in the face with my bloody stumps until the police catch up and taze me into submission. They'll try to handcuff me, but I'll just slip right out and continue my freakish rampage. Bereft of other options, they'll be forced to taze me repeatedly and eventually my heart will beat its last and I will pass from this world to the great MMO in the sky where the devs actually implement my every idea, my dad lets me eat ice cream for breakfast, and the police let me stump-punch as many faces as I want.

The stakes have been raised!

[SpankWustler]

Then I'll cut off my own hands and run around punching people in the face with my bloody stumps until the police catch up and taze me into submission. They'll try to handcuff me, but I'll just slip right out and continue my freakish rampage. Bereft of other options, they'll be forced to taze me repeatedly and eventually my heart will beat its last and I will pass from this world to the great MMO in the sky where the devs actually implement my every idea, my dad lets me eat ice cream for breakfast, and the police let me stump-punch as many faces as I want.

I had to look at the name beside this post three times to make sure I didn't stumble drunkenly to my computer in the middle of the night and type it. Freakish rampages are my favorite kind!

And yeah, this change isn't that big a deal. I'd still much rather the Development Bros use their resources to treat the whole disease of "Castingpsellssucksitis" than spend time fixating strangely on this one symptom involving one item in one situation. It's a matter of principle, I guess?

Still, if with Spring's approach and the budding of the first flower, a young Development Bro feels that funny urge to make something worse burning in his heart; I'm happy it's on so small a scale.

[MarkovChain]

Why is twilight scythe such an issue ? People will end up using monk instead because that's (nearly) the only way for a 2-man strategy to kill bhaflau Remanant II boss. Instead you might want to change cerberus' behaviour when it's HP gets low. Actually abusing scholar or SMN's enspell is probablya possiblity too, just need enough curing which SMN can't do. Instead of preventing X job to succeed at Y SE should probably learn from their past failures (embrava, PD). Salvage is clearly designed for melee DD so make it so ... by reducing the DD output penalty at low HP.