Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Krystal]

I don't think you can win before the contest ends.

aww dang....lol but i suppose my big prize will be seeing the level cap increase on abby areas.

[Icestein]

If Abyssea leeching didn't exist then many people would not level jobs. People aren't too keen on the monotony involved with grinding a job up to 70+. Doing so teaches them very little about the job, skills are still gimped from level syncing (which would be necessary what with the dwindling player base) and we'd still end up with players that have the same quantity of gear and skill as with the current system.

Abyssea is just making more people more versatile. To be good at a job you have to level the skills, and there are measures in place to incentive's people to do so (Blue and Red Proccing.)

[Starcade]

Oh look another thread with the exact same thing in it...

Raen and Rog are entirely correct. This whole "RETURN TO THE OLD WAYS" attitude needs to go away, the old ways sucked, stop asking for them back.

Why don't you just say that we who wish some degree of return to the old ways (read: some accountability on the part of both the players and Square-Enix) go away too...

[rog]

Why don't you just say that we who wish some degree of return to the old ways (read: some accountability on the part of both the players and Square-Enix) go away too...

You can stay, just get rid of those attitudes first. Walking backwards is the last thing you want to do when trying to get somewhere.

[Vinc]

Raen, Rog pretty much hit the nail on the head. Old ways sucked, in with the new please.

[Kimiko]

Why don't you just say that we who wish some degree of return to the old ways (read: some accountability on the part of both the players and Square-Enix) go away too...

Agreed and amen to that!

[Aliekber]

The thing you're failing to take into account is that most people are leveling new jobs because it's so painless compared to the old way. If there were no leeching, I wouldn't have PLD BLM or NIN, and you know what? I wouldn't be leveling them the old way, I'd be playing on RDM BLU SCH wishing I had a bloodtank, a top-class nuker, and an evasion tank. Or I'd have quit.

What I wouldn't be doing is joining your Kuftal Crabs party.

Plus, if they nerf leeching now, they'd basically be rewarding whoever exploited it the most/earliest, and screwing those who didn't. You don't want that, do you?

[Kimiko]

Personally, look at what SE has already done to improve XP'ing outside of Abyssea (doubling XP from mobs, making unlimited FoV pages for XP purposes). Personally I think they're already doing a good job making it a more balanced environment for lower-level players. It's a simple matter of continuing these efforts.

[Mirage]

they should have nerfed it way earlier if they were going to do it at all

If they do it now, it's just going to be shitty for the people who still haven't used it

[Icestein]

I concur. I've had quite a bit of fun with some of the jobs I have leveled through leeching. I have picked them up quickly (because frankly jobs aren't particularly hard to learn) and, yeah, I played through the era of 3-6 hour long parties gaining a level or two. I don't want to go back to it. If you do, and if it's your subjective view that you want it to return to those days you are free to do so. I'm sure there are like minded people who would like to join you.

Don't, though, try to ostracize those who do not mind it.