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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Yes, because everyone does eco warrior all the time, and no one levels up outside abyssea.

    You might be suffering from endgame-bias. You don't leech from 30-99 if you don't have any gil to burn or keys to pop chests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    And you're not?

    There are plenty of people who still throw a less-than-full party together to kill things for EXP, at least until 75. The current push towards key-whoring and book-burning seems more fueled by peer pressure and laziness than any real shortcoming in the old EXP system.
    You both missed the post where I said the bonus should apply completely across the board. Don't forget that this is only for a weekend. They aren't changing XP rates permanently.

    You guys act like changing XP rates for a couple of days is going to drastically alter the nature of the game and encourage everyone to go back to the old ways, and everyone who levels that way will be awesome and have maxed out skills. That never happened even when XP came at a glacial rate.

    To me, since the game won't be drastically altered either way they may as well go all out and let everyone benefit from the bonus in whatever activity they wish to participate in.
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    I do like the idea, and know people who hunt alone, or with a friend or few, the old way. I do it myself sometimes, so as long as this sort of events will become more common, I'm all for it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mookies75 View Post
    It's to get people out in the world instead of being afk in some worm party or RMT FC... It's pretty obvious.
    Were this the case, it wouldn't be just a few days, don't you think?

    I'd guess it has absolutely nothing to do with those reasons. Even if they did it every weekend, I suspect it wouldn't have any long-lasting effect. It could be fun, though, and I am curious to see how often they will do this (doesn't really makes sense to have just one of them for a weekend, does it).

    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Yes! It'd just be for a weekend. It wouldn't be the end of life as we know it.
    Agreed!

    I don't see why it shouldn't be extended to Abyssea areas just as well. There's really no reason not to!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    You both missed the post where I said the bonus should apply completely across the board. Don't forget that this is only for a weekend. They aren't changing XP rates permanently.

    You guys act like changing XP rates for a couple of days is going to drastically alter the nature of the game and encourage everyone to go back to the old ways, and everyone who levels that way will be awesome and have maxed out skills. That never happened even when XP came at a glacial rate.

    To me, since the game won't be drastically altered either way they may as well go all out and let everyone benefit from the bonus in whatever activity they wish to participate in.
    I'm not acting like anything. I'm saying that it isn't a big deal that it isn't added to abyssea mobs, because exp is so fast there anyway. I'm also saying that your eco warrior comparation is invalid. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    To me, since the game won't be drastically altered either way they may as well go all out and let everyone benefit from the bonus in whatever activity they wish to participate in.
    The flip-side is that, since the game won't be drastically altered either way, there's no point in them doing much more than the single table swap for base EXP rates. Abyssea and manuals each have their own special algorithms wholly separate from normal EXP gain (as can be seen by the fact that rings don't boost them) that would have to be modified on their own.

    Meanwhile, they've already boosted base EXP rates in the past, so code copypasta! More time for the S-E devs to watch cat videos on company bandwidth!
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    I'm wondering if this is an experiment to see if doubling xp from mobs would be worthwhile to do full time. If people do it and see they are getting roughly equivalent xp to book burns, it just might be the solution to having old school parties viable for gaining xp again.
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    I would certainly welcome that, cause book burns are incredibly monotonous.
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    The characters they put in the screenshot are all wearing cruor armor, nothing legendary or glowing about them. It seems like it's being aimed at the 75-98 crowd, as an alternative way to level up and/or rack up merit points before Adoulin hits.
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    You're killing the wrong mobs then.
    Uh, no, I'm not. It's still fast EXP, it's just that 99.9% of it comes from the books. This is how GoV alliances tend to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Uh, no, I'm not. It's still fast EXP, it's just that 99.9% of it comes from the books. This is how GoV alliances tend to work.
    You can also get fast EXP killing mobs that are actually worth EXP and treating the pages as merely a bonus rather than the primary source. When the EXP is doubled, and EXP rings stack, I'd say it's a worthy trade.
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    You can also get fast EXP killing mobs that are actually worth EXP and treating the pages as merely a bonus rather than the primary source.
    Loss of killspeed wouldn't be made up for by doubled mob EXP alone, not even close.

    If you think that isn't true, you've never been in a good GoV group >_>
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