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    There is one single reason why Trial people can't trade, send tells or form parties:


    R.M.T.
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    There still needs to be a way to get them into a linkshell, though.

    And I still don't know if /autogroup works with a free trial account. Tempted to try finding out myself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliveira View Post
    There is one single reason why Trial people can't trade, send tells or form parties:


    R.M.T.
    No, the one single reason for that is SE's paranoia about RMT.
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    Additionally, more than what? More than -5000000 dollars per month? If a game isn't making money at all, then it might start making money with F2P, but that certainly doesn't mean that a game that is already pretty profitable (FF11 is) would become even more profitable with F2P.

    Y'all jumping to conclusions.
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    "Which? Do you have actual numbers or just heard someone say something at some point?"

    Dungeons and Dragons had their revenue go up by 5 times and Lord of the rings online went up by triple.

    See, people don't look at the big picture. When people think a mmo goes ftp that their sub base stays teh same. The idea is that you increase your players dramatically so that the real money purchases end up more then the current subscriptions.

    FFXI is perfectly setup for FTP because of its incredible time sinks. Want a new Weaponskill, well you can do the nyzul path, get to 100 then do quest, or pay $10. Want an emp weapon, well here is 50 chloris buds for $20.

    People would buy that stuff. The people that didn't could do it the old way.

    I think, this game would make more money on ftp model, or do some combo, if you pay for ff14 you get FF11 for free, and still put in the real money trade items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    No, the one single reason for that is SE's paranoia about RMT.
    It's not paranoia if it actually has those level of effects on a game.

    And yeah, at one point it did before S-E went on the stompfest that continues today. Even Blizzard knows enough that if you don't keep your thumb on RMT, it'll start to wreck the game.
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    Old-time player, new-time character- Ragnarok server.

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    Up 5x from what? 20 dollars a month to 100?

    And no, everyone that didn't want to pay for it wouldn't keep grinding the old way, they would cancel their subscriptions and go somewhere else with their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbobx View Post
    Want a new Weaponskill, well you can do the nyzul path, get to 100 then do quest, or pay $10. Want an emp weapon, well here is 50 chloris buds for $20.

    People would buy that stuff. The people that didn't could do it the old way.
    Sure, people would buy them. Heck, they buy them now, even if not so directly (pay people to do Nyzul II for example). If it was made even easier, that makes me immediately think of that those people would run out of things to do quite soon since the game is based on them time-sinks and random. There really isn't much other things to do, is there?

    I tend to do old, weird things with friends, which is the only thing keeping me in the game; I never really played it for the game itself, I guess. It's only fun for me with the great friends I have had, and lost.

    I have always been against the huge time-sinks and random that is what FFXI is, but if you could just buy your way out so easily, what is the point in the game at that point?

    Goes for any game, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Up 5x from what? 20 dollars a month to 100?

    And no, everyone that didn't want to pay for it wouldn't keep grinding the old way, they would cancel their subscriptions and go somewhere else with their money.

    You are wrong, people would do it the old way and not quit, some would but they are babies that think they are special and entitled. Many people would play the old way, and many people new to the game would pay for some of that content.

    Not sure if you know this, but a lot of people bought gil with real money, and the majority of people didn't quit because so many people were buying gil, in fact, many of them bought gil and lied about it.

    Also, no, they are making 5 times more profit now that they switched to a ftp model over subscription model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoy View Post
    Sure, people would buy them. Heck, they buy them now, even if not so directly (pay people to do Nyzul II for example). If it was made even easier, that makes me immediately think of that those people would run out of things to do quite soon since the game is based on them time-sinks and random. There really isn't much other things to do, is there?

    I tend to do old, weird things with friends, which is the only thing keeping me in the game; I never really played it for the game itself, I guess. It's only fun for me with the great friends I have had, and lost.

    I have always been against the huge time-sinks and random that is what FFXI is, but if you could just buy your way out so easily, what is the point in the game at that point?

    Goes for any game, really.
    yet millions of people do it. All that SE cares is they make more money. If they had research to show they woudl make more money going ftp with little effort on their part, they would do it in a flash.
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