PS2 - Real info request.

[Mirage]

The amount of HDD space they can use is allocated by Sony. Considering how good friends SE and Sony are, they could probably get the storage limit increased.

The amount of available RAM is the limitation what's showing the most.

While this would be speculation, I also think that the PS2 limitations also consume a fai amount of man hours during the development process. I can't imagine it being as easy to add new features to a console with 99.999% of its RAM already used up, as it would be to add new features to a system that has several hundred MB free RAM (Practically every PC running the game, as well as the XB360).

[JagerForrester]

Can i borrow that time machine so i see what you claim to know what will happen? lol

It's a guess. I said the same thing to you in another thread.

SE would gain money by selling an expansion to the customers and a little extra money from those players willing to switch platforms and still play FFXI. This would be incentive enough to drop the PS2 if this plan went into motion.

But there was one thing you did not fight me on, and I found out this is good argument against dropping the PS2. How much do you think it will actually cost to change the programming and erasing all the data to remove any kind of support for the PS2? My friend pointed out that it would be "very" costly. He gave me rough numbers, but it was a strong point why SE didn't decide to drop the PS2 for FFXI but instead go with a new MMO. To be blunt, they would not make a profit in a year's time.

[Alhanelem]

Reskins of old graphics do not work that way. Reskinning old content does not save disc space.

Absolutely 100% wrong.

Reusing (important: reusing, not reskinning- most duplicate areas are not "reskinned, not entirely anyway) old content DOES save disk space. It's not about laziness. The same textures can be used more than once, thus you don't need as much additional texture data taking up disk space. The Dynamis areas use almost no new textures at all on the areas (Only the skybox is different, and the addition of the objects blocking the zone exits) The WotG areas recycle a lot of the textures from the original area, even though there are some significant changes in some places. This does require less disk space than if the areas were totally new.

As for how much disk space FFXI and POL are allocated, in Japan there is more software that uses the PS2 hard drive. Thus the amount of disk space allocated is limited so that there is enough space for everything.

It's possible SE might be able to change the allocation of space, but that would require every PS2 and Xbox user to reinstall the game, most likely. And that is a potential serious problem for some PS2 users who have PS2s that cant read discs.

[Zyeriis]

It's a guess. I said the same thing to you in another thread.

SE would gain money by selling an expansion to the customers and a little extra money from those players willing to switch platforms and still play FFXI. This would be incentive enough to drop the PS2 if this plan went into motion.

But there was one thing you did not fight me on, and I found out this is good argument against dropping the PS2. How much do you think it will actually cost to change the programming and erasing all the data to remove any kind of support for the PS2? My friend pointed out that it would be "very" costly. He gave me rough numbers, but it was a strong point why SE didn't decide to drop the PS2 for FFXI but instead go with a new MMO. To be blunt, they would not make a profit in a year's time.

Well considering how that other MMO is going, they probably should've just dropped ps2 support for this.

[JagerForrester]

Well considering how that other MMO is going, they probably should've just dropped ps2 support for this.

It would still cost the money. I think that's why the easy button has been hit for FFXI. All this new recent content has sped up leveling, and it attracted new players. I think that is SE's plan to make up for lost profits. They'll use this money to keep their employees working on fixing FFXIV. Then if they are willing and FFXI still has a profitable gain to it, they will get rid of the limitations.

[Detoxy]

I know there are a million threads saying about ps2 so i'm just wondering if there is any real info PS2 Limitations the only things that have been confirmed by SE as far as i know;

Auto translate limitations.
80 item slot limitations.


http://jpbutton.bluegartr.com/?p=1374#more-1374

There is a possibility of Harddrive space but from what i heard is that it was just an error made by SE.

Of course i don't really want to hear about ps2 limiting a retexturing/remodeling of the entire game because of the simple reason SE wouldn't invest that much into such an old game.

What i am interested in is the possibility of new expansions or zones

Either way if anyone has some REAL info on the problems on the PS2 please post with detailed info or a link please.

otherwise do not post there is a million topics just talking about this

Dear dev team if you could shed any light on the current situation that would be great too <3
best info so far

Also another request for pple only to post real info there are topics for and against the PS2 already please use them

Ps2 support needs to go away so FF11 can get a RLLY GOOD UPDATE

[Nattack]

The amount of HDD space they can use is allocated by Sony. Considering how good friends SE and Sony are, they could probably get the storage limit increased.

highly unlikely, its most likely a hardware limitation with the ps2 itself. perhaps on account of the file system it uses, which while i dont know what that is exactly, it doesnt appear to be any usual file system, windows and im pretty sure *nix cannot read ps2 formatted hdds. though id love to get ahold of that ps2 linux distro and fiddle about with it.

so, while it is possible for the ps2 to read more, most likely, it is unlikelt the update would ever reach the ps2 users, how many ps2 users still have their networj install or hdd install cd?

[Joslyn]

I still have mine from when I bought the hdd, I also still have the network cd from both the old style adapter and a friend gave me a newer version.... Ok so i hold on to stuff for a while...I still have the older version Resident evil, ya know the one in the BIG ass box that sony released when it first came out

[Nattack]

sony released resident evil? here i thought it was capcom

[Odintius]

I just like to no the yea/nay on this subject I can respect all the different points of view's on ps2 but I'd like to know this simple question. Would you support the idea to discontinue the ps2 to make room for improvement and adjustment? Leave all bias remarks aside including my own yes or no?

/yes