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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The size of a single sided 2 layer DVD under the DVD-9 specification is 7.95 GB (or more accurately GiB). What are you trying to say. (1 side 1 layer DVD-5 is 4.37 GB)
    Very good! Now, care to explain why you believe that S-E would both pay to ship DVD's that are (at least) half-empty and pay for the bandwidth to upload thousands of copies of the information that could have been pressed onto said half-empty DVD's? If nobody else, I'm sure S-E's shareholders would be very interested in what can only be described as a gross mismanagement of corporate funds.

    Are you just trying to be an ass again? I guess you didn't read the part about not trying to insult me?
    Allow me to explain with your own words:

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Because, people don't get it, and I'm making an apparently futile effort to help them get it?
    It is is a physical unlikelyhood that there is so much overlap between each individual expansion/game disc that we can condense 8 GB worth of data into 3GB.
    Unless, of course, much of the information contained on each of the discs applies to older content or is otherwise redundant. Y'know, overlap.

    Otherwise, S-E could spend about 2 yen more per unit to press dual-layerd PS2 DVDs and call it a day instead of ZOMG bandwidth costs.

    As I said before, there is a simple way to determine how much overlap there actually is, and that's by the data downloaded in the update process.
    So simple that you haven't tried it yet? C'mon, this is your big opportunity to put me in my place and maybe get me to shut up!
    1. Back up your macros and settings.
    2. Uninstall the game.
    3. Take note of data sizes:
      • on the install media
      • after a fresh install, but before updating
      • after updating
    4. post your results, for science!

    But i'm not sure why you even started talking about this in the first place.
    Quote Originally Posted by oliveira View Post
    Face it whenever you guys dislike it or not, the installers from the "Collection" versions only have half of the game data and you have NO CHOICE but download the other half of the game from POL using the update function.
    This thread is asking for new collection discs/installs to include a fuller amount of the game data so you dont spend several hours updating
    1. And then someone responded saying it wasn't possible for the entire game to fit on a single disc, because the '06 collection disc and the WotG disc don't add up.
    2. And then I pointed out that all the original (PS2 NA) discs add up to considerably more than the '08 collection, with lots of room to spare.
    3. And then you came in with your precocious little routine of trying to sound like you know what you're talking about, failing to do basic math in the process.
    4. And then I pointed out the absolute fiscal irresponsibility of your conjecture.

    And here we are! Wasn't that fun?
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    Last edited by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo; 01-13-2013 at 10:50 PM.
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