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    Community Rep Okipuit's Avatar
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    Greetings,

    To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own. We will thoroughly investigate whether or not the users soliciting for the service are affiliated with RMT activity and take action against those that are. However, in the event players are supporting RMT activity and services, there is a possibility of being punished as well. Therefore, we ask users to be careful not to involve themselves in activity that is associated with RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own. We will thoroughly investigate whether or not the users soliciting for the service are affiliated with RMT activity and take action against those that are. However, in the event players are supporting RMT activity and services, there is a possibility of being punished as well. Therefore, we ask users to be careful not to involve themselves in activity that is associated with RMT.

    So I can sell spots in my own cleave party just fine, but if I unknowingly join an RMT cleave party i'm supporting RMT activity and services and will be punished?
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own. We will thoroughly investigate whether or not the users soliciting for the service are affiliated with RMT activity and take action against those that are. However, in the event players are supporting RMT activity and services, there is a possibility of being punished as well. Therefore, we ask users to be careful not to involve themselves in activity that is associated with RMT.
    So, players are free to provide power levelling, same as RMT, but if they participate in an RMT organized power leveling activity, whether they know them as RMT or not, they can be banned? Only SE thinks that it is OK to kick out paying customers in the face of a declining player base. Awesome.

    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
    Likely easier said than done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
    There are many examples in the history of this game, some still active, where normal, legitimate players are considered 'collateral damage' by SE in their fixation on their war with RMT.

    God knows I'm no lover of RMT, but SE show no common sense or sense of proportion sometimes, and it's we players who are often the casualties of this war, either having to suffer asinine in-game mechanics (at best) or else getting unfairly banned and never reinstated (at worst).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    So, players are free to provide power levelling, same as RMT, but if they participate in an RMT organized power leveling activity, whether they know them as RMT or not, they can be banned? Only SE thinks that it is OK to kick out paying customers in the face of a declining player base. Awesome.

    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
    They're likely just saying "may" or "can" be banned to cover all their bases. Saying "you will never ever be banned if you just say you didn't know" makes it too easy to get away with it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    So, players are free to provide power levelling, same as RMT, but if they participate in an RMT organized power leveling activity, whether they know them as RMT or not, they can be banned? Only SE thinks that it is OK to kick out paying customers in the face of a declining player base. Awesome.

    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
    Maybe you should just find other ways to level up? Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own. We will thoroughly investigate whether or not the users soliciting for the service are affiliated with RMT activity and take action against those that are. However, in the event players are supporting RMT activity and services, there is a possibility of being punished as well. Therefore, we ask users to be careful not to involve themselves in activity that is associated with RMT.
    History tells us that it's kind of complacent to think 'RMT activity' is so easily or accurately determined by SE .. as the many hundreds or thousands of legitimate gardeners, for example, found to their cost some years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own.
    If you have no problem with players doing FC pts to power level, then why was the 10 mob at once limit imposed (seriously hurting blu CW)???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    If you have no problem with players doing FC pts to power level, then why was the 10 mob at once limit imposed (seriously hurting blu CW)???
    tbh although yes I know it does hurt CW it is a little better of an idea, that way you don't step on other player's toes by taking mobs they are trying to farm, esp when it comes to PIs for nms, just sayin.
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