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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
    Likely easier said than done.
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    Player Kraggy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
    There are many examples in the history of this game, some still active, where normal, legitimate players are considered 'collateral damage' by SE in their fixation on their war with RMT.

    God knows I'm no lover of RMT, but SE show no common sense or sense of proportion sometimes, and it's we players who are often the casualties of this war, either having to suffer asinine in-game mechanics (at best) or else getting unfairly banned and never reinstated (at worst).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    So, players are free to provide power levelling, same as RMT, but if they participate in an RMT organized power leveling activity, whether they know them as RMT or not, they can be banned? Only SE thinks that it is OK to kick out paying customers in the face of a declining player base. Awesome.

    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
    They're likely just saying "may" or "can" be banned to cover all their bases. Saying "you will never ever be banned if you just say you didn't know" makes it too easy to get away with it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokithor View Post
    So, players are free to provide power levelling, same as RMT, but if they participate in an RMT organized power leveling activity, whether they know them as RMT or not, they can be banned? Only SE thinks that it is OK to kick out paying customers in the face of a declining player base. Awesome.

    Maybe you should think of ways to control RMT that do not involve bystander casualties. Just a thought.
    Maybe you should just find other ways to level up? Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own. We will thoroughly investigate whether or not the users soliciting for the service are affiliated with RMT activity and take action against those that are. However, in the event players are supporting RMT activity and services, there is a possibility of being punished as well. Therefore, we ask users to be careful not to involve themselves in activity that is associated with RMT.
    History tells us that it's kind of complacent to think 'RMT activity' is so easily or accurately determined by SE .. as the many hundreds or thousands of legitimate gardeners, for example, found to their cost some years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Greetings,

    To clarify the situation -- normal players will not get in trouble for advertising power leveling services on their own.
    If you have no problem with players doing FC pts to power level, then why was the 10 mob at once limit imposed (seriously hurting blu CW)???
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    Player Areayea's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    If you have no problem with players doing FC pts to power level, then why was the 10 mob at once limit imposed (seriously hurting blu CW)???
    tbh although yes I know it does hurt CW it is a little better of an idea, that way you don't step on other player's toes by taking mobs they are trying to farm, esp when it comes to PIs for nms, just sayin.
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    Player Godofgods's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areayea View Post
    tbh although yes I know it does hurt CW it is a little better of an idea, that way you don't step on other player's toes by taking mobs they are trying to farm, esp when it comes to PIs for nms, just sayin.
    That doesn't make any sense actually. I still pull the same amount of mobs irregardless. (Since blu's generally target mobs that agro and link.) I just don't get any credit for killing them. And i no some ppl are pricks, but i always put pops in my bazaar when I'm at a camp. And instruct anyone with me to do the same.
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    Thanks for checking Okipuit.

    You missed my point that while not every party will let you do this, it's completely possible to do what you describe in an ordinary abyssea party (especially if you're friends with someone in the party)
    That's true, though the last few times I went to Altepa it was a pretty standard thing to boot anyone that went afk for an extended period of time, especially if they never mention anything, mostly because people prefer to keep it as a single alliance at the dolls so it doesn't get really confusing.
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    No, if you knowingly join one, or join one that obviously is one.

    How would you tell the difference? I don't know!
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