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  1. #21
    Player Vicious's Avatar
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    As a melee rdm i HATE seeing people running in mage gear swinging a sword. it defeats the purpose of being melee.
    So does swinging a sword in PDT gear.
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    Lyltia: RDM SCH BLM WHM NIN SMN BLU PLD THF DRK
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    Player Aethon's Avatar
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    I said it's a starting point and can all be bought. Plus the dux gear has a lot of str/atk, vit, and acc on top of the -pdt. All of those are helpful while soloing. There are better choices such as the brego gloves/helm, the calmecac trousers, and erudus' leggings (which is most of the set i use) but as a starting point that is not cheap but still cost effective and extremely easy to obtain, they work.
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    The Dux set seems like a decent option for somebody dependent on the auction house's value menu for a weapon-skill set. It's not to be worn during the TP phase if there are any options with Haste open to a bro, however.

    Brego Helm is generally cheaper than the Dux Visor and it has Haste on it; Dusk hands and feet are dirt cheap and still work better than Haste-less hands and feet; Hidalgo Slops are cheaper than Dux pants and have some meager amount of Haste on them. There are probably some other options I'm forgetting because I don't care that much. I have little to no idea what Red Mage's quickest and dirtiest options for bodies are, so Dux might be decent for the body slot.

    The only time anybody would want to be swinging at something in any amount of Dux Scale Stuffs is while wearing a DT-% set due to an emergency.
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    Player Vicious's Avatar
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    Indeed. General rule of thumb: if you have to fulltime PDT gear to melee, you probably shouldn't be meleeing.
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    Lyltia: RDM SCH BLM WHM NIN SMN BLU PLD THF DRK
    Aegis 95 Kannagi 90 Almace 90 Hvergelmir 90

    Valkyri: BRD WHM COR THF RDM BLM SCH
    Daurdabla 99 Gjallarhorn 99 Armageddon 90 Twashtar 90

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicious View Post
    Indeed. General rule of thumb: if you have to fulltime PDT gear to melee, you probably shouldn't be meleeing.
    Then you forgot that RDM breaks pretty much every rule.

    to the OP: If you are serious about leveling and gearing a RDM semi-solo then a PDT gear set is just as important as your Haste set. Your Haste set is significantly harder to obtain than your PDT set and because of that you will have to make due with the next best choice for a while, which is PDT. There were plenty of mobs I had to fight in full PDT with partial Haste sets.

    The other pieces you should focus on are Fast Cast, Enhancing magic, and Stone skin pieces. RDM is only exceptional in it's stamina. You need to be able to outlast opponents. Until you actually have 25.6% Haste with an Excalibur or other top end weapon, you are always going to be the challenger instead of the champ. Most of your battle will be battles of attrition. Cure Potency and Nuking are lovely secondary sets, but honestly they mean nothing if you can't cast fast enough to get them off quickly and efficiently. 400+HP Stone skin being cast in under a second makes you very hard to lock down and knock out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    Then you forgot that RDM breaks pretty much every rule.
    RDM always want to feel special, which isn't a surprise given their current position, but it still doesn't make it true.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    to the OP: If you are serious about leveling and gearing a RDM semi-solo then a PDT gear set is just as important as your Haste set. Your Haste set is significantly harder to obtain than your PDT set and because of that you will have to make due with the next best choice for a while, which is PDT. There were plenty of mobs I had to fight in full PDT with partial Haste sets.
    Haste gear is a lot easier to obtain than PDT gear, unless you're talking about Earth/Terra's Staff (which you shouldn't be). You can buy many Haste pieces for next to nothing, unlike PDT.

    A few other notes: Haste caps at 25%. Cure Potency is easy to build and very important. Nuking is only for the battles where you actually nuke, which can be useful, but generally aren't many. Fast Cast is not mutually exclusive with either curing or nuking gear, and RDM already gets high Fast Cast, getting cures off is rarely ever a problem. Stoneskin items are very few, and they're either very easy (AH) or very hard (SCNM, VNM) to get, so focusing on them in any way is pointless. You get those along the way at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    The Dux set seems like a decent option for somebody dependent on the auction house's value menu for a weapon-skill set. It's not to be worn during the TP phase if there are any options with Haste open to a bro, however.

    Brego Helm is generally cheaper than the Dux Visor and it has Haste on it; Dusk hands and feet are dirt cheap and still work better than Haste-less hands and feet; Hidalgo Slops are cheaper than Dux pants and have some meager amount of Haste on them. There are probably some other options I'm forgetting because I don't care that much. I have little to no idea what Red Mage's quickest and dirtiest options for bodies are, so Dux might be decent for the body slot.

    The only time anybody would want to be swinging at something in any amount of Dux Scale Stuffs is while wearing a DT-% set due to an emergency.
    AH-wise, the Dux Body is the best you're going to get. No body piece on the AH gives +Haste and nothing compares to the stat enhancements that Dux Body gives. So Dux body is good to start, but one should immediately gun for ACP Body or Goliard Saio.
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  8. #28
    Player ManaKing's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    RDM always want to feel special, which isn't a surprise given their current position, but it still doesn't make it true.



    Haste gear is a lot easier to obtain than PDT gear, unless you're talking about Earth/Terra's Staff (which you shouldn't be). You can buy many Haste pieces for next to nothing, unlike PDT.

    A few other notes: Haste caps at 25%. Cure Potency is easy to build and very important. Nuking is only for the battles where you actually nuke, which can be useful, but generally aren't many. Fast Cast is not mutually exclusive with either curing or nuking gear, and RDM already gets high Fast Cast, getting cures off is rarely ever a problem. Stoneskin items are very few, and they're either very easy (AH) or very hard (SCNM, VNM) to get, so focusing on them in any way is pointless. You get those along the way at some point.
    Try getting getting 25.6% Haste, which is the actual haste cap and you have to get 26% Haste in game to get it, for cheap off the AH. Do it. Do it right now. Oh look, you're wrong. Guess he should be getting some PDT to cover up all those spots.

    Sounds like you don't actually know RDM problems first hand. Thanks for misleading people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    Try getting getting 25.6% Haste, which is the actual haste cap and you have to get 26% Haste in game to get it, for cheap off the AH. Do it. Do it right now. Oh look, you're wrong. Guess he should be getting some PDT to cover up all those spots.
    Try getting 50% PDT off the AH, right now. What a retarded argument. RDM can get 19% Haste for under 1M from the AH, which is more than was even possible at 75 and still a very useful amount. More than what you could get in PDT, even for twice the price. It's almost possible to cap Haste just from AH gear if you're willing to pay extra, whereas PDT can't get anywhere near the cap. Just because you can't cap it in one go doesn't mean it isn't easy to come by or that it isn't very useful. You even said to invest in Fast Cast gear over Cure Potency, but Haste is usually more potent and a lot easier to get than Fast Cast gear.

    And the cap is 25%, not 25.6%. The equipment display on gear is wrong due to rounding issues, that's why you need 26%. I have no idea where you pulled 25.6% out from, at this point I can only guess.

    And by the way, for the same reason, PDT actually caps at 51% in gear, although you'll still only get 50%. Which means the true PDT cap is also harder to reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    Sounds like you don't actually know RDM problems first hand. Thanks for misleading people.
    All of your posts lead people to believe that you are one of the below:

    a)too lazy to macro in/out gear
    b)ignorant as to the function of "/equip" macros
    c)a special snowflake who don't need no man
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