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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfate View Post
    if you say that then you dont know the dancer job at all the 2 best sub jobs dancers are
    (1 being /SAM true dancers)
    (2 being /nin ok dancers)
    and you dont use the Dancer JA's at all
    Not everyone wants their DNC to be a main healer, and if you do I'm pretty sure you're in the absolute minority. If you don't mention /WAR it's you who doesn't know DNC at all. Also, DNC/NIN has immensely higher survival potential than DNC/SAM will ever have. The only reason to sub /SAM over /NIN is if you want damage, and then /WAR will win in almost every situation. Even the TP gain from /WAR is almost as good as from /SAM, because of the 10% extra Double Attack. And since Hasso doesn't work for one-handed weapons, /SAM only offers Meditate to get an insignificant amount of TP every other eternity and a self-SC every third eternity (which may not even deal more damage, depending on the weapon skills you have to use to form a skillchain).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Not everyone wants their DNC to be a main healer, and if you do I'm pretty sure you're in the absolute minority. If you don't mention /WAR it's you who doesn't know DNC at all. Also, DNC/NIN has immensely higher survival potential than DNC/SAM will ever have. The only reason to sub /SAM over /NIN is if you want damage, and then /WAR will win in almost every situation. Even the TP gain from /WAR is almost as good as from /SAM, because of the 10% extra Double Attack. And since Hasso doesn't work for one-handed weapons, /SAM only offers Meditate to get an insignificant amount of TP every other eternity and a self-SC every third eternity (which may not even deal more damage, depending on the weapon skills you have to use to form a skillchain).
    ok i did not say any thing about /war because i did not try that combo yet and i dont want to say any thing bad or good about a combo that i did not try yet so . and i know for a fact that a /sam last longer then /nin if you now how to use dancer the /sam way. and i'll try the /war way and get back to you on that o and i do know dancer ooooooo soooooooo good and if i didnt then i would not see what you are talking about how a /war would be good for a dancer job. but i do see what you mean and i am so with you on the /war and thats why i am going to try it out but so far /sam is my fov. and i fixed up #38 of what i think
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    WAR is the best DD sub for DNC purely due to Berserk. We don't get the Double Attack because Saber Dance seems to overwrite the trait. Dancer doesn't gain much from any sub relative to other jobs, though.
    Here I was hoping it wouldn't shine through that I don't actually have DNC. No such luck!

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfate View Post
    and i know for a fact that a /sam last longer then /nin if you now how to use dancer the /sam way.
    Which way is that? Describe it, please, so I can learn. What does /SAM have to make up for the loss of Utsusemi?

    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    If you needed pure DPS then you don't bring a DNC,
    What if you don't need pure DPS, but a hybrid? DNC is as good as it gets, possibly only beaten by NIN.
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