Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Mrbeansman]

Gosh, i sayd read the older threads, i already sayd i got a whole ls for pting old style, but we dont want to be on a server with ppl who leechstyle becouse its unfair, dont you get that.

And stop the Nazi shit here, we all know that the U.S.A./American Nation did alot worser things then Germany could ever do.
Slavery, Killing all native Americans, killing inocent vietnamese for a war america startet, Attacking Iran with a lie of Nuclear Weapons, Attacking Afghanistan after Bush faked a terrorist attack by ordering 2 Planes to rush in the twin tower just to get oil becouse U.S.A. drive such big cars that theyr oil reserves got low and they dont want to pay more for it.

I'm sorry I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who does not act within the realm of sanity. Seriously I'm sorry I've enabled you to keep spreading your insanity.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

It is sad that most of you don't even realize it.... Abyssea is slowly strangling FFXI, so slow that you dont feel it. But trust me, if nothing is done, or if they even act on the stupid idea of lowering the entry to lv1, the game will die. I came back because Abyssea looked cool, and I wanted to level some of my jobs to the 99 cap, came back for my friends and LS that still play, and for a few other reasons, but I am not sure that I made the right choice anymore......

I am seeing the game I loved for so long, slowly dieing, and no one seems to care, they just want their damn armor.........

[Mrbeansman]

It is sad that most of you don't even realize it.... Abyssea is slowly strangling FFXI, so slow that you dont feel it. But trust me, if nothing is done, or if they even act on the stupid idea of lowering the entry to lv1, the game will die. I came back because Abyssea looked cool, and I wanted to level some of my jobs to the 99 cap, came back for my friends and LS that still play, and for a few other reasons, but I am not sure that I made the right choice anymore......

I am seeing the game I loved for so long, slowly dieing, and no one seems to care, they just want their damn armor.........

No what really is sad is the way that you people cling to the past. The game changed and you're to preoccupied with nostalgia to move on and even entertain the idea that this change was for the better.

[Skybrit]

We will have to agree to disagree. Its not as easy as " just stay out of leeching alliances and go play the your old way". I Already had to leave one server because most jobs 30 plus had gone to Abyss and other areas were deserted. People left the game because the regular community was dying, the AH died (no need for food or gear or synthing), and new players would not stay. You have to realize that many people are not trying to "beat the game" and get to 90 and aquire the top gear. To a lot of players it is a community that they come to and enjoy some challenges with friends and a world they travel and enjoy. Its just two different game philosophies and because goals differ, so do methods. Unfortunately, the pursuit of one by some makes life hard in the game for others.

[Dew]

This many posts and pages and most of it is how this persons way is right and other ways are no good. It's simple you don't like doing Abyssea leveling, don't do it. You don't like Abyssea don't get the add-ons. You don't like the old way of leveling don't level that way. You don't like doing something this way or that way, don't do it. Complaining won't change the fact it's that way.

Simple fact is it's not your game, it's SE's game. Just because you pay your monthly fee doesn't mean everything should be your way only. Everyone pays the monthly fee. Simple fact is no matter what is changed in the game, things here won't change. There will always be people not happy that this isn't how they want it or that isn't how they want it.

[Greatguardian]

@Skybrit: No. What I'm hearing is "Because the new way is more popular, there are fewer people who want to do things the old way with me/others." That is not a case of being impaired. That is a case of being unpopular.

Trends die. You can't make anyone play your way because it's "better", "more pure", or "Real FFXI". I'm sorry that you like something that other people don't want to do. But that's all there is to it.

[Mrbeansman]

. Unfortunately, the pursuit of one by some makes life hard in the game for others.

I agree unfortunately you are the some not the others, you do understand this right. Your desire to change things will inconvenience the majority. The game has changed and for the vast majority who chose not to hang on to the past the change was for the better.

[Valaris]

honestly i dont think the argument should be about the lvling aspect really. about 80% of the zones sit empty because no one uses them and no one seeks partys at the lvls for those zones. so its all kinda just a waste really if they dont up the lvl cap or put a restriction like no xp in abyssea or dominion till your lvl 60+ and im being nice about that cause thats around the time people start taking jobs into dynamis or endgame stuff so thats when they should be able to benefit from endgame content. and on the lowering to lvl 1 to get into abyssea. ive said it in this thread already but if they do that they might as well just delete vanadiel all togeather and just move all the homepoints and moghouses into abyssea because thats all the game will be anyway

[Zeitzone]

I really dont get it why those players are so obsessed by leeching.
We dont want remove Abyssea, we just want to raise the entrace level to 70-75.
There is nothing wrong at that idea.
You still got your Abyssea and still can get EXP in there, you still get your pimp armors.
Its just one point we try to stop, the leeching, and for all those who are against this idea, the only thing they show us that they are gimp player, becouse they so intensively try to prevent the stoping of cheap leeching.
ANYONE who argues against the raise of the entrance level just wants to keep cheap leeching up his Jobs. Nothing else stands behind them Idea to keep the low Level entrance.
And it doesnt matter if you played for years in ffxi the old fashion way, now you are a leecher, nothing more.

[RaenRyong]

Link to your character. I am a proud Abyssea leech and yet I believe there is a good chance I am less gimp than you. If this is untrue, I will apologise.

The only people I've seen bitch about Abyssea leeching so far are those who do nothing in Abyssea but exp... or in the game for that matter.

EDIT: To be clear, I don't view myself as some undefeatable god of FFXI. Just if you want to cast a net calling countless people gimp, you had best have the strength to tie us up in it. There are many better players than me who Abyssea leech also - I am simply the first to make this challenge by coincidence, not because I view myself as top of the pile.