[dev1139] Embrava and Prefect Defense - Just say 'NO'

[MarkovChain]

meeble is very easy FFXIDB says a lot about how often GW user can beat a meeble boss lol. From what I remember me and mdk were at 15+ kills when they were at 10 only. They only have 53 kills atm meaning they only killed it 5x more than me mew ? Comparatively samursk : 100 kills, silaglith 200 kills. It's fairly pathetic if you ask me. It's not exactly a reference. I don't think anyone claims ADL is hard except our good old nynja, it's just that it's impossible without PD or at least it's very unlikely. I think I'm the one that made low man ADl popular ?

[Plasticleg]

It's because we aren't french. (duh!)

[Taint2]

meeble is very easy FFXIDB says a lot about how often GW user can beat a meeble boss lol. From what I remember me and mdk were at 15+ kills when they were at 10 only. They only have 53 kills atm meaning they only killed it 5x more than me mew ? Comparatively samursk : 100 kills, silaglith 200 kills. It's fairly pathetic if you ask me. It's not exactly a reference. I don't think anyone claims ADL is hard except our good old nynja, it's just that it's impossible without PD or at least it's very unlikely. I think I'm the one that made low man ADl popular ?

Yeah we started 6 manning him right after you. I was the only one sticking up for you for a long time when everyone else said 6man was impossible. Just like you say PDless is impossible now even though its been done by many LSs. I honestly think you could do it, if you tried, just takes 2 good Squalls.

As for meebles my group was one of the first to farm the mega boss. (along with yours) But Meebles extremely easy content, we blew through the entire thing with 3 players and a mule. I don't think its a good test of skill at all.

[saevel]

Would love more info on Tera Slash then, it rarely goes off, but we are good about 1 DD dieing.

Not sure how the stats = skilled??? It just records the number of times a mob has been killed and the drops, doesn't record how it was killed. Most people don't even do Meebles.

10x would be 70,000 kills for a mob that Saevel trys to make sound hard. ChanClan has killed this guy 800 times??? Using a 6 man strat. (sometimes 3! lol) Big shells are killing him 9 times in one run and not using PD on every kill.

Don't put words in my mouth, I never said he was hard, only that he was extremely cheap.

Your lack of knowledge about slash's arcing nature shows your just parroting what others have said. Just like you discounted Smash's paralyze effect on your SMN's blood pact JA.

I keep saying it, maybe it'll eventually get through your head. ADL is not hard, he is extremely cheap. PD is used to mitigate his cheapness. You still haven't spoken how you deal with double smash's extreme damage and paralyze effect. You won't be healing that HP back with that paralyze on and by the time you've removed it people are already going down.

Or he could be a total pansy and use two weak moves and give up the marrow on the first clone kill.

[saevel]

Yeah we started 6 manning him right after you. I was the only one sticking up for you for a long time when everyone else said 6man was impossible. Just like you say PDless is impossible now even though its been done by many LSs. I honestly think you could do it, if you tried, just takes 2 good Squalls.

Shows your again glossing over the 2nd clone. First clone kills are easy if smash doesn't screw you over. It's the second clone that makes you want to have PD during the initial phase of the fight.

[MarkovChain]

the weekest move it can do is double oblivion smash. I doubt you can stun it because <bt> macro won't work as they repop yellow and by the time a SMN (that must be in range) target plus hit macro plus charging time is over the sync move will go through and silence/bind everyone (likely) and mostly kill people. Any ramuh will likely be dead and by the time you recast+echo drop it's over. I mean you can always try to stun lock dynamis lord, I doubt you can do it even on him.

[saevel]

the weekest move it can do is double oblivion smash

You can't stun it, it goes off instantly the moment they reappear. We're talking about the split that happens at 40~60% so it doesn't have access to Implosion / Slash yet. He seems to favor using double Smash but I've seen him using assault / rupture before which are jokes if you have a DT set on. If he splits under 25% then it's a wipe unless you get crazy lucky. Killing off one clone isn't hard if you keep him shocked, he'll typically get one move off though due to the activation / charge time on Shock. It's the second clone that presents the real "difficulty", by the time you get to it people are dying and / or paralyzed. It's got a much higher change of dividing again or using slash / implosion.

As there is no way for the players to control which TP moves ADL use's, it becomes a RNG event. PD just lets you hedge the odds in your favor which results in a higher winning chance. Trying to kill ADL without PD is risking your pop set, which is 15m gil now on Lakshmi. IDK about you guys, I'm not going to be risking 15m gil for some "Linkshell Pride!!!" BS. Plus the event won't change much of the ADL fight, you'll be poping PD at ~70% before he's had a chance to split and burning down the first clone. With five super buffed DD's (4xPure DD + BLU/WAR) that is more then enough power to kill the second one off before the shorter PD expires, though you'll be within the "weakening" period of it.

[Taint2]

We pop PD at 70% and always have. No point in popping it while he's in LOL stage.

And why is the 2nd clone any different then the first with 2 SMNs? One SMN squalls the first at 25% the other SMN squalls the 2nd at 25%.

The PPP can be mad annoying, but again its the teams fault the squaller isn't taken care of. Squalling is the most important job in the kill. (also the most fun once 10k Reso's aren't fun to see anymore)

Our none PD wins we always picked the first clone but we also don't bring an alliance. 4 SMNs like the bigger shells have increase your chances by a great margin.

Either way the mob is not hard and his cheapness can be controlled, he's been killed 15000 to 70000 times.

I finished yet another 99 Relic tonight, so much luck involved in the kills lol.

[saevel]

And why is the 2nd clone any different then the first with 2 SMNs? One SMN squalls the first at 25% the other SMN squalls the 2nd at 25%.

2ND one is more dangerous because your PD SMN has already used squall and now your relying on SMNs who may or may not be alive, paralyzed or able to move. Melee's may or may not be alive or paralyzed. And worst of all it's been out long enough that it has a high chance of splitting soon which spells instant loss unless our very lucky.

Our none PD wins we always picked the first clone but we also don't bring an alliance. 4 SMNs like the bigger shells have increase your chances by a great margin.

That is the reason you won, not skill. You flipped the coin and it landed on heads, you got a prize.

[MarkovChain]

We pop PD at 70% and always have. No point in popping it while he's in LOL stage.

l.

Breakga, see my 3 man video. It actually breaked the second monk for a good 10 sec before the smn had MP back. With the upcoming VU everyone will have to risk it though, i'll be using the strat in the vid. The difference is that the initial stun lock will force him to split exactly at 60%, meaning yo have to deal more damage on the second clone.