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    Chances are that SE isn't making enough money to warrant multiple backups. Also, the OP's analogy is ridiculous to say the least. SE didn't loose their servers. They intentionally shut them down because of a nationwide problem. If you wanted to make a better analogy, you would have made a situation in which McDonalds ceases to provide burgers because it is possible that the meat source had mad cow disease (or something similar). In fact, similar situations have happened and they have stopped the production of burgers. Any other bright ideas OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilbitz View Post
    SE, you didnt let me down. You invented the Ginger cookie, and i wovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvey~aru cookies. ^^
    you have a point right there ^^:P
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    Quote Originally Posted by TearValerin View Post
    Call me out on what, on mild mannered epithets directed at those who display extreme ignorance? I've maybe insult 2 people, you and OP, saying what, you are ignorant and/or childish for pretending to be at my level of intellect? If he is going to berate people with his profanity, then he can follow his own advice and 'grow up.' Only children use cursing, now seriously, step off.


    And i'll step off when you stop insulting people. Simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilbitz View Post
    SE, you didnt let me down. You invented the Ginger cookie, and i wovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvey~aru cookies. ^^
    No Wizard Cookies for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Did you really just write this? "you are ignorant and/or childish for pretending to be at my level of intellect?"

    And yet you accused him of arrogance and hypocrisy? Lol - that is funny.

    And i'll step off when you stop insulting people. Simple as that.
    What is there to accuse? The dude flat out said "I bet I have aided Japan more than all of you combined." As if he is some godly tsunami/quake relief effort, therefore his demands should be met by SE. Read his page 18 post, my gosh. Trolls know no bounds... 'imma post logical fallacy for teh lulz.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Chances are that SE isn't making enough money to warrant multiple backups. Also, the OP's analogy is ridiculous to say the least. SE didn't loose their servers. They intentionally shut them down because of a nationwide problem. If you wanted to make a better analogy, you would have made a situation in which McDonalds ceases to provide burgers because it is possible that the meat source had mad cow disease (or something similar). In fact, similar situations have happened and they have stopped the production of burgers. Any other bright ideas OP?
    To begin with, i never meant about the servers not being on because of the disaster, i can totally understand that, and i have no argue about that, it´s way to obvious and reasonable why they did that.
    i meant about the idea of not having an alternative after all of these years that ppl have been paying, when you have a world wide multiplatform business, you don´t have all the stuff that makes it work in one place, that is what i believe is wrong, i am sure other companies do that in order to ensure better and faster costumer support and service.
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    You know the real prince and princesses on this thread are the ones that are not listening to the original poster. Long before this with many things that Square Enix has done has made me blink with the lack of planning and thought for customers. Just repeat to yourselves "FFXIV" if you need evidence.
    To those posting that it was impossible for SE to set up a back up plan such as back up servers saying it is too impossible, that is something American business does daily.
    The other real point is that some of you would be the same immature prince and princesses that would blithely post "Hate America first" post about "heartless" American Business.
    The fact is SE is sometime questionable. Their lack of planning, Their lack of advertising for new player blood, their debuting a game that was not ready, and for as much as they copied to have the lack of content that they do is inexcusable.. any US business would be down the tubes at that point.
    The problem in Japan is awful, it is something that makes me cry, but the lack of planning by SE part isn't hurting me. I have other things to do, but in the end it might hurt them badly. They need money now throughout the country and they have no real plan. The truth is from the wishy-washy announcement, I was pretty sure they would never come up again.
    To keep customers if you are a real competitive business you find the contingency plan to keep it all floating during the bad times, If you don't think US business does it, I can name several right now for you, one of which I work for, and trust me. if they didn't plan for back up all over the world your lives would stop, so I know it isn't as impossible as some of you want to insist.
    Besides I look at the time--long ago in past history with FFXI when they used to insist that there was no lag time for US players in trying to provoke first, because the servers were in the east..no indeed they said that complaint from US customers ( when trying to beat Asians at NM hunting) was a lie because servers were here in the US. That memory alone at this time makes me go huh???... search it out. that was the end result of questions in the early 2003--004 days of SE.

    The original poster has a point. a good one, and if you weren't all just SE fan kids, you would note that yes. there is an issue. You might still play their games, you might still love the story line etc, but you would admit there are definitely issues with the SE business model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TearValerin View Post
    What is there to accuse? The dude flat out said "I bet I have aided Japan more than all of you combined." As if he is some godly tsunami/quake relief effort, therefore his demands should be met by SE. Read his page 18 post, my gosh. Trolls know no bounds... 'imma post logical fallacy for teh lulz.'
    Can i ask you a question, what have you done, to help japanese people?, you are mixing stuff way to far, all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelie View Post
    You know the real prince and princesses on this thread are the ones that are not listening to the original poster. Long before this with many things that Square Enix has done has made me blink with the lack of planning and thought for customers. Just repeat to yourselves "FFXIV" if you need evidence.
    To those posting that it was impossible for SE to set up a back up plan such as back up servers saying it is too impossible, that is something American business does daily.
    The other real point is that some of you would be the same immature prince and princesses that would blithely post "Hate America first" post about "heartless" American Business.
    The fact is SE is sometime questionable. Their lack of planning, Their lack of advertising for new player blood, their debuting a game that was not ready, and for as much as they copied to have the lack of content that they do is inexcusable.. any US business would be down the tubes at that point.
    The problem in Japan is awful, it is something that makes me cry, but the lack of planning by SE part isn't hurting me. I have other things to do, but in the end it might hurt them badly. They need money now throughout the country and they have no real plan. The truth is from the wishy-washy announcement, I was pretty sure they would never come up again.
    To keep customers if you are a real competitive business you find the contingency plan to keep it all floating during the bad times, If you don't think US business does it, I can name several right now for you, one of which I work for, and trust me. if they didn't plan for back up all over the world your lives would stop, so I know it isn't as impossible as some of you want to insist.
    Besides I look at the time--long ago in past history with FFXI when they used to insist that there was no lag time for US players in trying to provoke first, because the servers were in the east..no indeed they said that complaint from US customers ( when trying to beat Asians at NM hunting) was a lie because servers were here in the US. That memory alone at this time makes me go huh???... search it out. that was the end result of questions in the early 2003--004 days of SE.

    The original poster has a point. a good one, and if you weren't all just SE fan kids, you would note that yes. there is an issue. You might still play their games, you might still love the story line etc, but you would admit there are definitely issues with the SE business model.
    That was my hole point, you described way better than me, thank you
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    I'm beginning to think posts of this nature are made simply to cause drama. I've played this game for several years. Not once has SE ever closed down their servers like this. If this was an ongoing problem, I would understand the criticism. It is not. This is the first time there has been a disaster this size in any industry, and this is the first time they had to take drastic measures such as this. Seems reasonable to me.
    I said it before in another post. Maybe you are right. Maybe SE hates their customers, maybe SE hates money, maybe nobody at SE has ever been to college and doesn't know as much as you. OR maybe a 9.0 earthquake followed by a tsunami topped off by a nuclear crisis happened and they saw this as the best possible way to help take care of it. The only thing I would like to add is that in the future, would all those claiming to know how businesses of this nature should be run during times of crisis please reference us to your multi million dollar business and/or businesses so that we know you are truly the experts that you try to come off as online. Otherwise I'm gonna have to give SE a break on this one.
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