Is there a future?

[JohnGotti]

Yeah the op is starting to come across as a crybaby who wants gil making to be stopped just because hes to lazy to level fishing or indeed as Winrie said fishing and bonecraft to do those rings, a very jealous horrible person who im glad to say isn't on my server.

[Secondplanet]

You do realize you have to level bonecraft and fishing to even do rings right? RMT dont even bother to craft or fish anymore, you need to get with the times.

I don't know whats it is like on your server but i know several more secluded spots where there is a character on /anon crafting these rings for hours and yes they did stop once choco blinkers were around but now it seems like they are pickup up pace, You do know that back long ago RMT did do crafting to increase profit margins by turning high gil items into more money with no middle man.

Yeah the op is starting to come across as a crybaby who wants gil making to be stopped just because hes to lazy to level fishing or indeed as Winrie said fishing and bonecraft to do those rings, a very jealous horrible person who im glad to say isn't on my server.

Where id i state i want gil to be hard to make or not make any at all, Just cause i don't bother with fishing doesn't mean anything, i have no issues in the game with gil and if there is that pricey piece of gear i want i can get in a week no problem. Also have you ever traveled to the far off are known as Nashmau? once you get off the boat all you see is the whole area of bluenames like ghjkl fishing nonstop, i don't think they doing it for charity.

Also JohnGotti i wish to point out the fact of how can you even talk about most things when you have just joined the game and don't know the damage RMT has done in the past? I think i'm the one who's glad i'm not on the same server with someone who thinks so little of others for an opinion.

All i was pointing out is that SE will ban/change something but not do the same for others which doesn't make sense.

[scaevola]

And thats why i see trains of characters with names like asdfg running through towns and receiving 2-3 /tells a week from them offering me gil at amazingly low prices. Yeah really sounds dead to me.

Legit players sell gil to websites which in turn market it back to players.

This has been going on a while, as even though there comes a certain point where gil flows like water, SE has done a fair to decent job of keeping that out of the reach of throwaway RMT accounts; the only other way to keep the flow of cash going without the contributions of high-level players at a low risk of being banned is account-hacking, which SE has done an AMAZING job of combatting simply by incentivizing the purchase of authenticators to the point where you really can't justify not getting one.

[Sarick]

Legit players sell gil to websites which in turn market it back to players.

What an oxymoron statement! Legit players can't be legit if they are selling gil. Why?, They aren't legit they are Real Money Traders.

I think this sounds better fixed below :

Regular/average players sell gil to websites which in turn market it back to players.

[Kristal]

Legit players sell gil to websites which in turn market it back to players.

That was the case in the old days, when RMT started in EQ as a mom&pop middleman thing and quickly blossomed into the hackfest it is today. While some RMT do buy gil, it's at fractions of their sell value since they can do it cheap themselves. Almost all gil sold by RMT comes from bots, with some account hacks when it was possible. It is in the RMT's best interest to cause massive inflation in economies, so that players cannot make enough for their own daily expenses and are forced to buy gil just to play. (A couple of years ago, prices of expensive goods tripled overnight, coinciding with a triple gil sale at a major gil seller... goods sold by accounts belonging to that same RMT)

I've seen at least 5 people get in trouble for using Diaga on a group of mobs held for SMN burn parties. I've NEVER seen or heard of the actual burners getting bansticked.

That was before cleave parties. It's even explicitely allowed in the EULA. But now you can get in trouble if you PREVENT Diaga or similar gather-stealing practises.

[Winrie]

I don't know whats it is like on your server but i know several more secluded spots where there is a character on /anon crafting these rings for hours and yes they did stop once choco blinkers were around but now it seems like they are pickup up pace, You do know that back long ago RMT did do crafting to increase profit margins by turning high gil items into more money with no middle man.



Where id i state i want gil to be hard to make or not make any at all, Just cause i don't bother with fishing doesn't mean anything, i have no issues in the game with gil and if there is that pricey piece of gear i want i can get in a week no problem. Also have you ever traveled to the far off are known as Nashmau? once you get off the boat all you see is the whole area of bluenames like ghjkl fishing nonstop, i don't think they doing it for charity.

Also JohnGotti i wish to point out the fact of how can you even talk about most things when you have just joined the game and don't know the damage RMT has done in the past? I think i'm the one who's glad i'm not on the same server with someone who thinks so little of others for an opinion.

All i was pointing out is that SE will ban/change something but not do the same for others which doesn't make sense.

I'm well aware what RMT have done in the past, and what they are doing lately. But reading your responses, while I sympathize with your anti rmt attitude and agree it needs to stop, you keel using words and examples of PAST rmt actions and events, stuff they did LONG AGO. I'm not sure what fishers are doing in the mire or anywhere outside nashmau but I'm callin bs on it, rmt pick the fastest methods for money, crafting and fishing aren't fast, I can't recall the last time I saw an rmt outside abyssea or port jueno or a gov zone leveling to 30. Relax bro