Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[RAIST]

Besieged is by no means, "back in the day." lol

lol.. this game... you loose all sense of time... how f-in long have I been in this game.... when the hell did TAU come out anyway... 2006? Old man syndrome... can't remember sh!t.... All TAU really did for me was provide a platform for skilling weapons on my mages....

All I can say is thank gawd for Abyssea. I actually only leeched one job part the way from 60-85 while I was running errands, than skillup as I xp'ed the rest of the way to 90 in that same session. But hell.. after doing 9 other jobs via "normal" xp and "accelerated" (no leech, but xp party style) xp...I think I earned the right to do it.

hell... if I had known it was coming, I would have left every single one of my jobs at 40 instead of rushing to get all of the none 75 ones to 51 before the first level cap was lifted (except the 4 I never unlocked). But, it was a CHOICE.

Think that is something seriously lost in this debate. You have a CHOICE. If you want to smack pink birds in the past... by all means, knock yourself out. Use your NPC if you can't team up--you have your own private WHM that can go to what... 75% of the areas now?

Experience points are almost as pointless as gil anymore...it all just comes so easily (in comparison to the past).

Raist

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Abyssea got me 90BRD, I hate BRD.

[Dubberrucky]

Its unfair for those who do not want to play this new Leechingstyle.
And im one of those persons, i didnt leech a single time yet. And for sure never will do it.
i play the old way and im proud on, but if i see alot of Noobs(not all) around me in the game runing with level 90 and do not even know how to play them job or not even have a feeling for the job they use, i kinda feel sad.
FFXI was for me always a game where you chose a Job, you get a personal bound to that job by slowly leveling it up and experience many ways to work with it, and after you done you take the next second Job you like.
By Leveling the subs to 37 you had the chance to experience many job and then chose if you want to bring it higher becouse it fits your taste.
But players today dont care about the job, it just has to be Level 90, all other doesnt interest them, they go in Abyssea open a chest and level up multiple levels. They never learned to love the job. Never experienced a thick bound to it, and then play it, maybe they can be good in it, but mostly they lack at feeling how to play, no respect for the job they use becouse it was so simply to get it up, fast the job is forgotten and the next one is 90, not even having a good gear.
Later they can offer all jobs but very gimp and mostly with bad playing.

I agree with you but tbh the best suggestion out there to date to fix this issue without taking enjoyment from either side is this http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ver-suggestion

[Flunklesnarkin]

I think zeitzone has some sort of genetic disorder impairing logic..

just because people leech doesn't mean you have to party with them.. find like minded people and go enjoy the game

I've seen plenty of abyssea parties that won't invite anybody below level 75.. if you hate it that much do that or exp elsewhere with folks like that.

You are trying to force your ideas of how the game should be played on others

[Mrbeansman]

Its unfair for those who do not want to play this new Leechingstyle.
And im one of those persons, i didnt leech a single time yet. And for sure never will do it.
i play the old way and im proud on, but if i see alot of Noobs(not all) around me in the game runing with level 90 and do not even know how to play them job or not even have a feeling for the job they use, i kinda feel sad.
FFXI was for me always a game where you chose a Job, you get a personal bound to that job by slowly leveling it up and experience many ways to work with it, and after you done you take the next second Job you like.
By Leveling the subs to 37 you had the chance to experience many job and then chose if you want to bring it higher becouse it fits your taste.
But players today dont care about the job, it just has to be Level 90, all other doesnt interest them, they go in Abyssea open a chest and level up multiple levels. They never learned to love the job. Never experienced a thick bound to it, and then play it, maybe they can be good in it, but mostly they lack at feeling how to play, no respect for the job they use becouse it was so simply to get it up, fast the job is forgotten and the next one is 90, not even having a good gear.
Later they can offer all jobs but very gimp and mostly with bad playing.

That's quite the fantasy you've dug up there thanks for proving how much a minority you really are. I have to ask this now did you even try endgame? Do you do anything in this game that isn't leveling? If you answered no to either then you have no right to dictate how any of us play the game.

[Ramsos]

That's quite the fantasy you've dug up there thanks for proving how much a minority you really are. I have to ask this now did you even try endgame? Do you do anything in this game that isn't leveling? If you answered no to either then you have no right to dictate how any of us play the game.

I asked him this earlier. He claims to have done endgame but gearing jobs is boring so he doesnt like it. Not in those exact words but its hard to type like he does w/o stabbing yourself in the face.

[Zeitzone]

I think zeitzone has some sort of genetic disorder impairing logic..

just because people leech doesn't mean you have to party with them.. find like minded people and go enjoy the game

I've seen plenty of abyssea parties that won't invite anybody below level 75.. if you hate it that much do that or exp elsewhere with folks like that.

You are trying to force your ideas of how the game should be played on others

Not how it should be played, how it had been played for over 7 years!
Ppl with my opinion stop playng this game becouse of this.
Becouse you cant have 2 so strong different ways of leveling in a game, and if you had take the time and read some older posts you whould make such a BS post becouse i already explained it more times, most simply with the cookie and cake explanation.
They changed the way of playing radicaly without to think about the players.

[RAIST]

just curious... where is the OP? 1200 posts now...lol

Hate to see it go, but as it appears to really be going nowhere... maybe the OP should delete it...

[Mrbeansman]

Not how it should be played, how it had been played for over 7 years!
Ppl with my opinion stop playng this game becouse of this.
Becouse you cant have 2 so strong different ways of leveling in a game, and if you had take the time and read some older posts you whould make such a BS post becouse i already explained it more times, most simply with the cookie and cake explanation.
They changed the way of playing radicaly without to think about the players.

If this is the case why are you still here?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Ppl with my opinion stop playng this game becouse of this.

This is the vast minority, like people who hold onto 2nd ED.